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>> THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE TETON COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF EDUCATION FOR WEDNESDAY APRIL 17, 2024 6:00 PM CALLS TO ORDER.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE RISE. TRUSTEE MEAD.
>> THANK YOU. TRUSTEE KEITH GINGERY IS ON ZOOM REMOTELY AND TRUSTEE STEFAN ABRAMS IS EXCUSED.
[NOISE] THE MISSION STATEMENT, OUR MISSION IS TO ENSURE THAT ALL STUDENTS HAVE THE FOUNDATION FOR SUCCESS AND ARE CHALLENGED TO REACH THEIR FULL POTENTIAL.
HOPEFULLY, [INAUDIBLE] WE'VE LIVED UP TO THAT.
[LAUGHTER] WE'RE COMING TO THE END. [LAUGHTER] YOU ARE.
ANYWAYS, AFTER THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
[B. Approval of the Agenda]
>> I WOULD ASK THAT WHOEVER MAKES THE MOTION, COULD WE REMOVE NUMBER 6, CUSTODIAL SERVICES, AND NUMBER 10, SOLUTION TREE, FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND PLACE THEM ON THE ACTION ITEMS?
>> MR. CHAIR, I WOULD ALSO MOVE FOR THE TRANSFER OF THE NUMBER 4 OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, APPROVAL OF ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT WITH MOGUL CAPITAL, AND MOVE THAT TO ACTION ITEMS.
>> THE AGENDA IS BEING CHANGED FROM ACTION ITEMS 1 AND 2 OR THE SAME, 3 WOULD BE THE APPROVAL OF ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT WITH MOGUL CAPITAL, ACTION ITEM 4 WOULD BE APPROVAL OF THE SELECTION OF PREMIER GREEN CLEANING FOR CUSTODIAL SERVICES, AND ACTION ITEM 5 WOULD BE THE APPROVAL OF SOLUTION TREE INC. PURCHASE AGREEMENT.
DOES THAT SOUND CORRECT? ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? WILL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS CHANGED.
>> MOTION MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS MODIFIED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE?
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[NOISE] SUPERINTENDENT, CHAPMAN, SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT.>> THANK YOU BOARD MEMBERS AND CHAIR SCARLETT.
TONIGHT, WE HAVE EXCITING, ALTHOUGH A LITTLE BIT DELAYED DUE TO THE TEAM'S TRAVEL SCHEDULE, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE MIKE HANSEN DO THE HONORS.
I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE OUR STUDENT ATHLETES AND THEIR STATE CHAMPIONS.
IS THE TEAM YOU'VE SEEN MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS.
THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP GOT A LITTLE ADJUSTED THIS YEAR DUE TO WEATHER BUT I'LL LET [INAUDIBLE].
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US ONCE AGAIN.
WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE BEING HERE AND JUST TAKING A FEW MINUTES OF YOUR TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE TEAM.
AT THE LAST MEETING WE WERE GETTING YOUR REGIONALS TO SEE RACE THERE.
WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ARRANGEMENTS THAT SHOWED UP HERE.
THIS IS COACH T. J. CONNELL, HE'S ONE OF MY ASSISTANT COACHES AND HAVE BEEN HELPING ME OUT FOR A FEW YEARS HERE.
NEXT TO HIM IS ONE OF OUR SENIORS, NICO YEOMANS.
HE'S BEEN WITH US TWO YEARS, I BELIEVE, AND JUST ADDED ON IN THE LOVE SKI RACING.
JACK SOLTHI, AND I'M GOING TO GET MY NOTES BEFORE I START GETTING A LOT OF THINGS, BUT JACK'S ONE OF OUR CAPTAINS THIS YEAR.
HE IS A SENIOR CAPTAIN, THIS IS HIS THIRD YEAR ON THE TEAM.
HE FINISHED OUT THIS YEAR AS AN HONORABLE MENTION I'LL STATE.
MASON LYNCH IS A MULTI-SPORT ATHLETE AND ACTUALLY STARTED AT NORDIC, CAME TO US LAST YEAR AND DID ALPINE AND THEN HE WENT BACK TO NORDIC THIS YEAR AND CAME BACK TO US IN ALPINE THIS YEAR.
HE'S GETTING IT ALL DONE AND I JUST LOOK OUT AT [INAUDIBLE] AND I FEEL LIKE I NEED A FLOOD.
[LAUGHTER] RIGHT HERE, I'M IN SO YOU CAN SEE BUT THIS IS TRAVIS MORE.
TRAVIS IS HIS THIRD YEAR ON THE TEAM.
IN ALL OF HIS TIME, HE'S HAD 14 VICTORIES OR WINS THROUGHOUT HIS SEASON.
THE LAST TWO YEARS HE WAS OUR STATE CHAMPION AND HE HAD
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THE MOST POINTS OF ANY RACER IN THE ROUND SERIES.HE'S ALSO BEEN A GIANT SALAM CHAMPION IN THIS TIME AND HE'S REPRESENTED US AT REGIONALS THE LAST THREE YEARS.
C. C HAS BEEN WITH US FOR, I WANT TO SAY THREE YEARS AS WELL, CORRECT.
YOU'RE ON THE TEAM. SHE A JUNIOR.
LAST YEAR SHE WAS THE SECOND TEAM ALL STATE, THIS YEAR, SHE MOVED UP TO FIRST TEAM ALL STATE AND THIS YEAR SHE WON HER FIRST RACE.
RIGHT NEXT TO ME YEARS ANNIE MOLL.
ANNIE MOLL IS A JUNIOR AND BOTH YEARS THAT SHE'S BEEN ON OUR TEAM, SHE'S BEEN FIRST STATE.
SHE'S BEEN WITH US ALMOST TWO YEARS AND HER 18 STARTS AT THE BAR THIS YEAR, THERE'S ONLY THREE TIMES THAT SHE FINISHED BELOW FIFTH GRADE SO SHE'S VERY CONSISTENT AND [INAUDIBLE].
RIGHT NEXT TO ANNIE, MADDIE RYAN.
MADDIE RYAN IS A JUNIOR, THIS IS HER FIRST SEASON WITH US THIS THIS YEAR BUT SHE ENDED UP IN THIS SEASON AS THE TOP GIRL OF THE SAVING.
SHE GOT THE MOST POINTS THROUGHOUT THE SEASON AND SHE ALSO WENT TO REGIONALS AND SHE'S BEEN A GREAT ADDITION TO THE TEAM.
THEN LAST WHITNEY WALK, SHE'S ONE OF OUR SENIOR THIS YEAR.
WHITNEY HAS BEEN WITH US FOR TWO YEARS, AND HER BACKGROUND IS NOT INCREASING.
SHE JUST CAME OUT JUST FOR THE JOY OF SKIING AND WE'VE TRIED TO HELP HER IMPROVE AND GET BETTER AND THAT, YOU CAN SEE.
SHE AGREED WITH HER SMILE AND THIS IS A GREAT PERSON TO HAVE AROUND.
THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.
THIS IS THE KIDS THAT ARE HERE WITH US NOW, MANY ARE STILL IN SPORTS AND DOING OTHER THINGS.
>> NEXT, CHAIRMAN [INAUDIBLE] SCARLETT, WE HAVE THE DISTRICT LEADER'S REPORT, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> ANY QUESTIONS ON THE DISTRICT LEADER'S REPORTS? TRUSTEE [INAUDIBLE].
>> THANKS, MR. CHAIR. I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT AND PULL IT OUT INTO THE MEETING AND JUST SAY THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES DUE TO THE END OF THE ESRA MONEY AND OTHER THINGS AND ONLY THE TITLE 1 SCHOOL BEING MONGER MOUNTAIN.
OUR COMMUNITY HAS REALLY COME TOGETHER TO HELP FILL THOSE GAPS.
I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND I'M INVOLVED IN ASSISTANCE EDUCATION AND I ACTUALLY AM ON THE BOARD OF HEALTH AND RESCUE, SO I'M INVOLVED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ALL THIS, BUT I THINK IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND THE SYSTEMS THAT WE'VE CREATED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT IT COULD BE DEALT WITH ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.
I WILL ALSO SAY THAT HOLE FOOD RESCUE HAS NOW MOVED FROM THEIR TINY LITTLE PLACE OFF GREGORY LANE DOWN TO A NEW FACILITY ON ELK LANE AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DOUBLE THEIR SUMMER LUNCH CAPACITY HAD THEY NOT MADE THAT MOVE TO A PERMANENT HOME, SO THAT'S PRETTY COOL TOO. ANYWAY. THANK YOU.
>> CHAIRMAN SCARLETT, IF I CAN JUST ADD SOMETHING.
I WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO THE FUND FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION BECAUSE JENNIFER JELLEN, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, HAS WORKED HOURS AND HOURS TRYING TO SUPPORT THIS.
IT'S WONDERFUL TO HAVE SO MUCH COMMUNITY SUPPORT, BUT IT REQUIRES A HIGH LEVEL OF COORDINATION.
JENNIFER HAS REALLY SUPPORTED THAT AND A HUGE THANK YOU TO ALL OF HER EFFORTS AND FOR THE FUND'S BOARD IN SUPPORTING JENNIFER IN THAT EFFORT.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? KEITH? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON.
>> THE NEXT THING, TRUSTEES IS THE EDUCATIONAL MOMENT.
TONIGHT, MEGHAN [INAUDIBLE] AND STEPHEN PRING WILL BE PROVIDING THIS UPDATE.
>> GOOD EVENING, BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND CHAIRMAN SCARLETT.
I JUST WANT TO EXTEND SOME APPRECIATION FOR BEING ABLE TO UPDATE YOU ON WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT AND RECOGNIZE AND
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CELEBRATE THE WORK OF OUR TEACHERS AND OUR ADMINISTRATORS AND OUR SCHOOL BUILDINGS.THE CORE OF OUR TCSD CURRICULUM ACROSS ALL CONTENT AREAS IS OUR ESSENTIAL STANDARDS, OUR PRIORITIZED STANDARDS.
UP HERE, WE HAVE OUR DEFINITION OF WHAT THAT IS, AND I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME REALLY KEYWORDS HERE.
ESSENTIAL KNOWLEDGE, SKILLS, AND DISPOSITIONS.
THE ESSENTIAL KNOWLEDGE WOULD BE OUR CONTENT-SPECIFIC STANDARDS WITHIN EACH COURSE CONTENT OR GRADE LEVEL.
OUR ESSENTIAL SKILLS, I WANT TO BRIDGE WHAT DR. CHRIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSING THE LAST COUPLE ED MOMENTS WHERE HE'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT THOSE LIFE-READY SKILLS, THOSE COMPETENCIES, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE WITHIN OUR PRIORITIZED STANDARDS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE ESSENTIAL SKILLS SUCH AS THE SKILLS THAT ARE TRANSFERABLE ACROSS CONTENT AREAS, SO DEVELOP VIABLE ARGUMENTS, USE EVIDENCE.
THOSE SKILLS ARE TRANSFERABLE ACROSS MULTIPLE CONTENT AREAS.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE WORD DISPOSITIONS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MINDSET, EFFICACY, BEHAVIORS THAT PROMOTE THAT SELF-DIRECTED LEARNING.
THAT'S THE CORE OF OUR CURRICULUM IN ELA AND MATH, SO WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THEN HERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC EXAMPLES FROM OUR SCHOOLS ON SOME UPDATES ON THE WORK.
ACROSS ALL OF OUR CONTENT AREAS, ACROSS ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS, WE ARE PRIORITIZING SKILLS AND STANDARDS.
WE HAVE SOME EXAMPLES HERE, AND I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME GOING INTO EACH EXAMPLE, BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENING AT OUR DIFFERENT LEVELS.
WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL, THEIR DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR COURSE MAP, WHICH HAS THOSE ESSENTIAL PRIORITY STANDARDS, HAS THOSE ESSENTIAL SKILLS.
THEN I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT MUNGER'S EXAMPLE OF SOME VERTICAL ALIGNMENT WORK THAT HAS ALL OF THE STANDARDS IDENTIFIED ACROSS THE GRADES IN BOTH ELA AND MATH.
SOMETHING TO HIGHLIGHT THERE IS JUST THAT WORK THAT THE TEAMS HAVE REALLY BEEN DOING COLLABORATIVELY TO IDENTIFY THOSE MOST IMPORTANT STANDARDS AND SKILLS THAT STUDENTS MUST MASTER IN ORDER FOR SUCCESS IN THE NEXT GRADE.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE UP HERE IS A COMMON FORMATIVE ASSESSMENT LADDER OF LEARNING THAT IS DEVELOPED AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
SOMETHING TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT IN THAT EXAMPLE IS THAT A STANDARD IS AT THE TOP OF OUR LEARNING LADDER.
WE WANT TO SHOW PROGRESS TOWARDS MASTERING OF THAT STANDARD.
IT GOES FROM MOST SIMPLE LEARNING TARGETS TO MOST COMPLEX.
STUDENTS WILL BE WORKING AT THOSE LEVELS ALL THE WAY AS THEY ACHIEVE TO MASTERY.
THESE ARE LEARNING LADDERS THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED ACROSS K-8 SCHOOLS.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN THE CORE OF OUR WORK THE LAST TWO YEARS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO REFINE THESE AND IMPROVE THEM EACH YEAR.
SOMETHING THAT WE ARE DEVELOPING IN HIGH SCHOOL, WE WOULD TAKE THIS AND IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT IT HAS SOME SUCCESS CRITERIA, WHICH IS THE LEARNING LADDER, AND THEN WE ALSO PUT IT INTO A PROFICIENCY ON THAT ESSENTIAL SKILL.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A LADDER THAT WAS DEVELOPED FOR INFORMATIONAL TEXTS, BUT YOU CAN SEE SOME EXAMPLES SPECIFICALLY IN HERE AROUND, HOW ARE WE DEVELOPING COMMON FORMATIVE ASSESSMENTS? HOW ARE WE SUPPORTING STUDENTS AS THEY PROGRESS IN THE ESSENTIAL SKILLS AND STANDARDS? NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME WORK SPECIFICALLY AROUND ELA.
ACROSS OUR SCHOOLS, WE ARE PRIORITIZING THOSE MOST ESSENTIAL STANDARDS.
A STANDARD THAT IS VERY COMMON ACROSS THE GRADES THAT IS FOUND TO BE MOST ESSENTIAL WOULD BE THIS ANCHOR STANDARD, SO WRITING ARGUMENTS TO SUPPORT CLAIMS. THE REASON WHY THIS ONE HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A REAL CORE STANDARD ACROSS OUR SCHOOLS IS THAT
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THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TRANSFERABLE SKILLS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DEVELOP ACROSS CONTENT AREAS.ANDREA, COULD YOU PULL UP GRADE 10 AS AN EXAMPLE? SORRY, COULD YOU MOVE THAT A LITTLE?
>> THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THE HIGH SCHOOL HAS BEEN DEVELOPING THEIR STUDENT-FACING RUBRICS.
WHAT WE SEE HERE IS THAT OVERARCHING SKILL IS AT THE TOP, WRITING ARGUMENTS.
THAT'S THAT TRANSFERABLE MAJOR SKILL COMPETENCY THAT WE WANT TO DEVELOP AND ADDITIONAL CONTENT AREAS ARE WORKING TOWARDS THAT SKILL AS WELL.
WE HAVE THE SOCIAL STUDIES TEAM OR THE SCIENCE TEAM REALLY ALSO ELEVATING THAT WORK.
HERE, UNDER SUCCESS CRITERIA, THAT IS A VERSION OF THE LADDER THAT YOU SAW THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN K-8.
IT LOOKS SIMILAR BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THOSE LEARNING TARGETS.
IT STARTS AS VERY SIMPLE AND IT GOES TO MORE COMPLEX UNDER THE SUCCESS CRITERIA.
THEN UP ABOVE, YOU CAN TAP DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT, UP ABOVE IS WHERE YOU SEE THAT PROFICIENCY GRADATION ON THAT SKILL.
STUDENTS ARE WORKING TOWARDS DEVELOPING THOSE FOUNDATIONAL SKILLS ALL THE WAY TO MASTERY OF THE STANDARD AND TO EXCEED THE STANDARD.
SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE REALLY WORKING HARD ON IS DEVELOPING OUR ASSESSMENTS.
WE'RE WORKING ON DEVELOPING THOSE COMMON FORMATIVE ASSESSMENTS WHICH ARE FREQUENT, AND THEN WE'RE ALIGNING THAT PROCESS WITHIN OUR GRADE LEVELS, SO DELIVERING THOSE ASSESSMENTS WITHIN A WINDOW OF TIME SO THAT WE CAN COLLABORATE ON HOW ARE STUDENTS PERFORMING, WHAT ADDITIONAL SUPPORTS DO STUDENTS NEED AND HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE ALL STUDENTS MASTER THAT ESSENTIAL CONTENT AND SKILL? NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
>> WHEN I WAS FIRST SAID THAT, HEY, HAVE A MATH SNAPSHOT, I THREW TOGETHER 100 SIDES, AND I WAS READY TO GO.
THEN I HAD TO BE REMINDED, HAVING THAT MOMENT.
I HAD TO DO TO TWO SLIDES FOR YOU.
FIRST, I JUST WANT TO MENTION WE ARE DOING ALL OF THAT SAME WORK IN MATH.
WE ARE PRIORITIZING THE STANDARDS, WE ARE BUILDING THE LADDERS, WE ARE IDENTIFYING THE ESSENTIAL TRANSFERABLE SKILLS.
I WANTED TO ACTUALLY SHOW YOU ONE OF THE TRANSFERABLE SKILLS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN MATH.
IT'S IDENTIFIED IN THE MATHEMATICAL PRACTICES AS CONSTRUCT VIABLE ARGUMENTS AND CRITIQUE REASONING OF OTHERS.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COLLEGE AND CAREER READY SKILLS, IT'S CONSTRUCT EFFECTIVE ARGUMENTS AND EVALUATE EVIDENCE.
THEN YOU LOOK IN THE SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING PRACTICES, AND THAT IS ENGAGE IN ARGUMENTS FROM EVIDENCE.
THEY'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING.
THOSE ARE THE SKILLS THAT WE CAN SAY, WE'RE GOING TO TARGET IN MATH, BUT WE CAN ALSO TARGET IN SCIENCE, WE CAN ALSO TARGET IN ELA, WE CAN TARGET THAT ACROSS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT SUBJECTS.
THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE OF A TRANSFERABLE SKILL. NEXT SLIDE.
WHEN I THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT IS THE REAL THING THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT MATH IS THAT, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, ONE THING THAT WE'RE REALLY REALIZING IS WE HAVE TO HAVE FIDELITY TO WHAT WE'RE TEACHING, HOW WE'RE TEACHING.
IF WE'RE TEACHING IT IN DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, IF WE'RE USING DIFFERENT IDEAS.
STUDENTS ARE NOT BEING SET UP FOR SUCCESS.
ROAD MAPPING IT SO THAT EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THINGS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
IN THAT REGARD, FOR K-5 WE HAVE STARTED PILOTING THE 3RD EDITION OF BRIDGES.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE RUNNING THE SECOND EDITION OF BRIDGES.
WE PILOTED THE THIRD EDITION, WE GATHERED EVIDENCE FROM THE PILOTS, WE HAVE BROUGHT THAT TO THE PRINCIPALS, AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION AND IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE THIRD EDITION, WHICH ALLOWS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE.
WE ARE ALL TEACHING THE SAME CONCEPTS, USING THE SAME SKILLS, USING THE SAME LANGUAGE YEAR TO YEAR.
STUDENTS ARE NOT RELEARNING EVERYTHING FROM KINDERGARTEN TO FIRST GRADE, TO SECOND GRADE TO THIRD GRADE. KEEP IT CONSISTENT.
WITH THAT SAME MINDSET, WE ARE EXPLORING A NEW PRIMARY RESOURCE AT MIDDLE SCHOOL AS WELL, WHICH TIES MUCH MORE CLOSELY TO THE SAME CONCEPTS OF BRIDGES AND THE SAME CONCEPTS OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.
WE HAVE NOT MADE A DECISION YET.
THEY ACTUALLY HAD A DEMO OF THE PRIMARY RESOURCE ON MONDAY FOR ALL STAFF AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL,
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AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH A PILOT ON THAT.NO DECISION MADE YET, BUT I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THIS COULD BRING TO OUR MATH.
I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE'VE BEEN MEETING MONTHLY WITH MY K-12 MATH LEADERSHIP TEAM AND THEY HAVE BEEN ESSENTIAL IN EVERY STEP OF THIS PROCESS.
THEY HAVE HELPED ME LEAD AND GO FORWARD TO THE PRINCIPLES WITH WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO ALIGN MATHEMATICS K-12 IN THIS DISTRICT.
I AM SUPER EXCITED ABOUT WHERE MATH IS GOING IN THIS DISTRICT. THANK YOU.
QUESTIONS? I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS PERSONALLY.
ONE QUESTION IS ABOUT IN ELA AND MATH, IS THERE ANY FOCUS ON PENMANSHIP BECAUSE YOU TALKED ABOUT WRITING, BUT SEEING WRITING IS PRIMARILY ONBOARDING.
IS THERE ANY WORK BEING LOOKED AT IN THAT AREA?
>> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN SCARLETT.
YES. WE HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED HANDWRITING WITHOUT TEARS, THAT IS A K-3 PROGRAM.
I DON'T LIKE THE WORD MANDATORY, BUT IT'S ESSENTIAL IN K-2.
IT'S A CORE RESOURCE, AND WE ARE USING IT IN K-2.
GRADE 3 IS OPTIONAL DEPENDING ON SCHOOL BASED LEADERSHIP.
THE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL CAN DECIDE IF GRADE 3 IS GOING TO PURCHASE THAT PROGRAM.
YES, WE DO BUILD IN INSTRUCTIONAL TIME FOR HANDWRITING, FLUENCY, AND FLEXIBILITY.
>> WE DO. GRADE 3 IS FOCUSED ON CURSIVE AND OUR PRIMARY RESOURCE IN ELA AND K-5 IS WONDERS.
WONDERS DOES HAVE A PENMANSHIP HANDWRITING SPECIFIC TOOL FOR TEACHERS TO USE.
>> SEEMS LIKE WE FELL AWAY FROM THAT.
>> HOWEVER, IT ISN'T A STANDARD.
THAT IS AN AREA OF IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE IT ISN'T A STANDARD..
IF IT'S NOT IDENTIFIED AS AN ESSENTIAL STANDARD, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BRING IN THROUGH OUR WRITING INSTRUCTION.
>> NOT AN ESSENTIAL STANDARD BY THE STATE?
>> CORRECT. IT'S NOT A WYOMING CONTENT STANDARD.
BUT I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ESPECIALLY K-2 TEACHERS.
>> THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR K-12 STUDENTS.
I HAVE A QUESTION AND THEN TRUSTEE GINGERY HAS ONE.
BUT MY LAST QUESTION ABOUT MATHEMATICS.
AT MUNGER, ARE WE STILL DOING MATHEMATICS IN TWO LANGUAGES?
>> WE'RE ABLE TO COORDINATE THE THING YOU SAID ABOUT THE LANGUAGE, KEEPING IT FLOWING FROM SPANISH INTO ENGLISH AND VICE VERSA?
>> YES. I WOULD SAY CHRISTINA MUNGER IS ESSENTIAL IN HELPING GUIDE THAT WORK AND SHE'S PART OF MY K-12 MATH LEADERSHIP TEAM.
>> SURE. I ACTUALLY HAD THREE QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL DO ONE AT A TIME.
THE FIRST ONE IS, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY STEVEN AND MEGHAN ARE TWO OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE AND THEY JUST ARE REALLY DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB.
>> MY FIRST QUESTION IS, MEGHAN, WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT OUR CURRICULUM IS, WE FOLLOW THE STANDARDS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT TO BE THE STATE STANDARDS.
DO WE HAVE LOCAL STANDARDS TOO OR DO WE JUST ADOPT THE STANDARDS THAT THE STATE GIVES US AND TAKE THEM AS IS, OR DO WE ALTER THEM, EDIT THEM, ADD TO THEM, DELETE THEM? JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S A LOCAL FLAVOR TO IT.
>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE GINGERY.
WE CANNOT ADJUST THOSE STANDARDS.
THOSE ARE WYOMING CONTENT STANDARDS.
THOSE ARE THE ADOPTED STANDARDS THAT WE FOLLOW.
THOSE ARE OUR PRIMARY STANDARDS.
HOWEVER, EACH BUILDING TEAM WILL PRIORITIZE BASED ON THEIR SPECIFIC CONTEXTS AND NEEDS.
THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WILL PRIORITIZE THOSE STANDARDS BASED ON THAT CONTENT AND COURSE THAT MAY NOT BE SIMILAR TO A DIFFERENT CONTENT OR COURSE.
FOR INSTANCE, MUNGER MAY HAVE PRIORITIZED
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DIFFERENT ESSENTIAL STANDARDS THAN ANOTHER SCHOOL IN JS.>> EXCELLENT. MY SECOND QUESTION WAS, AND I'M SURE YOU CAN GUESS WHAT THE QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE WITH WONDERS, WHICH IS OUR CURRICULUM FOR ELA AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL.
HOW DOES THAT WORK IN RELATIONSHIP TO WHOLE LANGUAGE VERSUS PHONICS? I KNOW THAT GETS DISCUSSED A LOT AND I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT IS WONDERS? IS IT WHOLE LANGUAGE? IS IT PHONICS? IS IT A COMBINATION OF THE TWO? I'VE JUST HEARD A LOT OF DISCUSSION LATELY THAT WE NEED TO BE MOVING MORE TOWARD PHONICS AND AWAY FROM WHOLE LANGUAGE.
IS THAT ACCURATE? MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT DO WE DO?
>> THANK YOU. WHEN WE ADOPTED WONDERS, WE WERE LOOKING AT A SCIENCE AND READING BASE, INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS.
IT IS GROUNDED IN SIGHT AND IT HAS A VERY EXPLICIT SYSTEMATIC PHONICS, FOUNDATIONAL SKILLS, WORD STUDY, GRAMMAR COMPONENT.
WE FEEL REALLY CONFIDENT IN THAT PRIMARY RESOURCE.
RECENTLY, WE HAVE NOTICED WE PROBABLY NEED A REFRESHER ON THAT PRIMARY RESOURCE AND HOW TO ENSURE THAT IMPLEMENTATION IS CONSISTENT ACROSS OUR SCHOOLS.
>> SORRY, I'LL BE MORE CLEAR. WE TEACH.
ABSOLUTELY, THAT IS AN ESSENTIAL COMPONENT OF THE CURRICULA.
I THINK OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM WONDERS INNOVATION IMPLEMENTED FOUR YEARS AGO AND THROUGHOUT THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
IT'S RECOMMENDED 20-25 MINUTES OF FOUNDATION SKILLS.
THAT'S OUR PRIMARY RESOURCE TO TEACH THOSE SKILLS.
>> MY LAST QUESTION WAS SIMPLY, THE DEPARTMENT OF ED HAS BEEN TALKING A BUNCH ABOUT ILLITERACY AND WAYS TO COMBAT ILLITERACY.
THEY'VE DONE SOME STUDIES AND SUPPOSEDLY ONE OF THE PRIMARY CAUSES IS DYSLEXIA, AND THEN THEY WERE RECOMMENDING THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT START MOVING TOWARD UNIFORM TESTING FOR DYSLEXIA AT EARLY AGES.
DO WE DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY TO DO UNIFORM TESTING FOR DYSLEXIA?
>> STATE STATUTE REQUIRES THAT WE USE THE UNIVERSAL SCREENING WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE STATE.
WE USE DIBELS 8, WHICH IS AN APPROVED SCREENING WHICH WILL SCREEN FOR AT RISK FOR DYSLEXIA.
WE ARE USING APPROVED SCREENER.
WE ALSO ARE HIGHLY TRAINED IN ADMINISTRATION OF THAT SCREENER.
WE HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE IN THE TOOLS AND THAT PROCESS.
>> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.
>> WE'LL SHOW THEM WHAT USE TO STOP THE CURSE.
>> NEXT UP, STUDENTS OR I ASSUME GABE IS AT NATIONAL ROBOTICS.
[D. Reports and Items for Discussion]
>> RESEARCH. AWESOME. GO AHEAD.
THIS IS OUR TIMELINE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
ON MONDAY, WE'RE GOING TO MEET WITH KATE WILSON FROM 2REVOLUTIONS ALONG WITH BENNETT TO FINALIZE AND CREATE A DRAFT OF OUR FINAL PROFILE, POST OR GRADUATE.
HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH THE MEETING WE'LL PRESENT THAT TO YOU GUYS OVER THAT MONTH, CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTIONARY ITEMS TO COME WITH.
WE'LL BE WORKING WITH DR. CHRIS ON PREVIEW BASED THINGS, HELPING STUDENT LEARNING PROFILE, ALL OF THAT.
THEN HOPEFULLY IN JUNE, HELPING OUT THOSE FUTURE MEMBERS OF THE STUDENT SCHOOL BOARD WITH WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO WORK ON NEXT YEAR.
>> ALSO TODAY, ME AND ANDREW BOTH HAD THE PLEASURE OF TALKING TO DR.
CHRIS AND DOING A QUICK RECORDING FOR THE PRESENTATION IN RIVERTON, WHICH IS A RIDE CELEBRATION.
NEITHER OF US WILL BE ABLE TO BE THERE, BUT WE CONTRIBUTED OUR VOICES ON SOME QUESTIONS THAT HE POSED, AND I THINK JUST THESE QUESTIONS CONTINUING TO BE ASKED IS REALLY HELPING US FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
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>> TRUSTEES, IF I CAN JUST BRAG ON OUR STUDENTS FOR A MINUTE.
I WAS ON A CALL WITH OTHER SUPERINTENDENTS IN THE STATE AND THEY WERE ASKING ABOUT WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH RIDE BECAUSE WE'RE ONE OF THE CURRENTLY NINE DISTRICTS.
NEXT YEAR, THEY'RE BRINGING ON SIX MORE.
THIS IS A BIG GROUP OF SUPERINTENDENTS.
ONE OF THE SUPERINTENDENTS SAW YOUR PODCAST WITH THE GOVERNOR.
HE WAS SO APPRECIATIVE AND HE JUST SAID, ARE YOU BRINGING YOUR KIDS BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE THEM.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW ARTICULATE THEY WERE AND THE GREAT THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING AND THEN HE FOLLOWED UP ANDREW AND SAID, HE'S THE SUPERINTENDENT IN GREEN RIVER, AND YOU PLAYED A BASKETBALL GAME, I BELIEVE THE VERY NEXT DAY.
HE SAID, A, I HAD NO IDEA HOW TALL HE WAS, AND B, HE WAS PLAYING AND HE'S LIKE HE'S JUST SUCH A NICE PERSON.
ONE OF OUR PLAYERS FELL AND ANDREW PICKED HIM UP AND THEN HE RAN DOWN THE COURT AND EITHER DID A DUNK OR A LAY UP.
WHAT ELSE CAN THIS KICK OUT DO.
BOTH OF YOU, THEY JUST RAVED ABOUT HOW IMPRESSED THEY WERE AND COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE SENIORS.
WHAT GREAT REPRESENTATION AND GAVE AS WELL.
AND YOUR ABSENCES ON MART MAY 3 WILL BE FELT, BUT WE ALSO REALIZE IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE SO INVOLVED AND YOU'RE SUCH A BIG PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT COMMUNITY, BUT OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE HAS MADE A SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE FOR OUR STATE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO SHARE THAT APPRECIATION FROM A FELLOW SUPERINTENDENT.
>> FEEL GOOD TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF SO MANY PEOPLE.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SCHOOL BOARD? NO. THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH.
THANK YOU WITH ALL YOUR HEART.
NEXT ON THE AGENDA, TRUSTEE SON.
>> I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY EXCEPT KRISTEN HAS SOME GOOD NEWS FOR US I'M SURE.
>> I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A SETUP.
I GO THERE. WE'LL DO BUDGET UPDATE FIRST.
THIS IS THE NORMAL BUDGET UPDATE THAT Y'ALL NORMALLY SEE.
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF LINES HERE.
SPECIAL EDUCATION IS SIGNIFICANTLY OVER AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE DISRUPTION THAT WHEN WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL STUDENT THAT WE HAVE TO SEND INTO A FACILITY OUTSIDE OF OUR DISTRICT, THIS IS WHAT CAN HAPPEN.
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THIS, THE STATE DOES HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE TO HELP US IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE THE CASH RESERVES AND WE'RE PACING OKAY WITH OUR BUDGET.
I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS TRANSPORTATION.
THIS IS THE PURCHASE OF THE BUS.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL STICK THIS YEAR OR IF WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE IT TO NEXT YEAR.
BECAUSE OF THE DELIVERY WHEN WE ORDER THE BUSES, THERE'S SUCH A LAG IN THE DELIVERY OF THE BUS.
THIS COULD COME OUT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET OR IT COULD GO INTO NEXT YEAR, EITHER WAY, IT WILL BE A REIMBURSABLE AMOUNT.
>> WE'LL GO TO THE COMPENSATION PACKAGE SUMMARY, ANDREA.
>> AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OUR HEALTH INSURANCE FOR NEXT YEAR, AND THAT'S A LARGE PART OF OUR COMPENSATION PACKAGE.
THE COMPENSATION PACKAGE DRAFT IS POSTED FOR WE'RE PREPARED WITH A PROPOSAL FOR HEALTH INSURANCE AND NO CHANGE TO THE RCA.
WE'VE HAD A HEARING COMMITTEE WITH TWO MEETINGS.
WHEN WE WENT OUT TO BID THIS YEAR, WE HAD NINE COMPANIES THAT DECLINED TO BID OUR HEALTH INSURANCE.
FIVE OF THEM, THEY COULDN'T OFFER COMPETITIVE BID.
THE OTHER FOUR, THERE WASN'T ENOUGH DATA BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE EIGHT MONTHS ON THIS INSURANCE.
HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR, WE WILL GET A LITTLE MORE INTEREST.
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ONCE WE HAVE MORE DATA, BUT HEALTHCARE IN GENERAL, AS WE ALL KNOW, IS INCREASING RAPIDLY.THE CIGNA RENEWAL CAME IN AT APPROXIMATELY 6.7%, BUT THEN WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO NEGOTIATE THAT DOWN TO ABOUT A 6% INCREASE, SO THE 6.7 HAS BEEN UPDATED, AND THE SUMMARY OF PROPOSALS REFLECTS THAT UPDATE.
PROPOSAL 1 IS STAYING WITH A STRUCTURE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
IF YOU'LL GO DOWN TO THE FULL PROPOSAL ONE.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE THESE FOUR PLANS, THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE 3,500 IS AT NO COST TO THE EMPLOYEE WITH NO HSA CONTRIBUTION.
WE HAVE THE TWO TRADITIONAL PLANS THAT CURRENTLY HAVE A PREMIUM COST TO THE EMPLOYEE, BUT NOT THIS HIGH.
I WOULD SAY THE RENEWAL IMPACTS THOSE TRADITIONAL PLANS THE MOST, AND THEN THE HSA CONTRIBUTIONS IN THE TIER FIVE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN HAVE COME DOWN WITH THE RENEWAL.
THIS IS IF WE WERE TO CHANGE NOTHING AND RENEW THE CURRENT PLANS AS IS.
THIS IS ALSO KEEPING VISION AND DENTAL WITH GUARDIAN.
WHEN WE STARTED WORKING THROUGH THE PROPOSAL, ONE OF THE OPTIONS WAS THAT WE CHANGE VISION AND DENTAL TO CIGNA, AND WE BELIEVE WE GOT WE DID RECEIVE A LIST OF THE PROVIDERS THAT ARE UNDER THE VISION AND DENTAL, AND IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST PIECES OF FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM OUR STAFF IS TO HAVE MORE VISION AND DENTAL PROVIDERS.
WE COULD SWITCH TO CIGNA AND IT'S ACTUALLY AT LESS COST.
THEN IT THERE'S MORE PROVIDERS AVAILABLE, BOTH IN TETON COUNTY AND IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD CHANGE.
PROPOSAL 2, I HAD A FOLLOW UP QUESTION AFTER OUR LAST STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING.
WHAT IF WE ONLY OFFERED A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN FOR STAFF, AND THEN WE USED.
BEFORE WE WENT WITH WE WERE SELF INSURED AND ONCE WE CLOSE THE SELF INSURED PLAN, WE ENDED UP GETTING $1 MILLION BACK IN PREPAID PREMIUMS. THAT MONEY HAS BEEN SITTING IN OUR HEALTH BENEFITS FUND EVER SINCE THEN.
THE PROPOSAL OR THE ASK WAS, WHAT IF WE USED THAT TO OFFSET THE HSA MONEY BECAUSE TECHNICALLY, THAT IS EMPLOYEE MONEY THAT'S SITTING OUT THERE AND THEN DO A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE ONLY.
ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THIS QUESTION COMES UP IS WHEN WE START ASSESSING WHAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF RISK OUT OF POCKET IS FOR AN EMPLOYEE ON A TIER 1 PLAN VERSUS A TIER 5 PLAN.
WHEN YOU SAY, OKAY, WORST CASE SCENARIO, I DID THE ANALYSIS FOR NETWORK N ONLY, WORST CASE SCENARIO, THEY'RE ABOUT THE SAME.
THE TOTAL OUT OF POCKET ON A TRADITIONAL PLAN FOR A FAMILY IS ABOUT 10,000 $11,000.
SAME COST FOR A TIER 5 HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN.
BUT WHEN YOU RUN BEST CASE SCENARIOS, THE TIER 5 PLAN IS MUCH BETTER FOR THE EMPLOYEE.
ASSUMING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A TERRIBLE YEAR EVERY YEAR, THE TIER 5 PLAN MIGHT BE A BETTER OPTION FOR MOST PEOPLE.
I ALSO RAN IT FOR SPECIFIC EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE FAMILY COVERAGE, BUT THEY HAVE ONE PERSON THAT ABSOLUTELY MEETS THE DEDUCTIBLE EVERY YEAR, MAYBE THEY HAVE A HIGH COST PRESCRIPTION OR THEY HAVE A CHRONIC DISEASE.
KNOWING THAT THAT'S A GIVEN, THAT WAS ALSO THE SAME RESULT, THE TIER 5 PLAN WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER OPTION.
IT'S A LITTLE SCARY BECAUSE YOU SEE THAT $5,000 MARK.
BUT FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU TAKE THE CURRENT PREMIUMS THAT YOU'RE PAYING NOW, YOU PUT THOSE INTO AN HSA.
IF YOU'RE ON A TRADITIONAL PLAN, YOU TAKE THE PREMIUMS YOU'RE PAYING NOW, PUT THOSE INTO THE HSA, THE DISTRICT BOARD TO CONTRIBUTE 173.
NOW YOU'RE STARTING TO SAVE THAT MONEY.
POSSIBLY SPEND IT, POSSIBLY NOT.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD.
SOME OF THE ANALYSIS WE'VE DONE.
THIS ALSO IS WITH VISION AND DENTAL REMAINING WITH GUARDIAN.
THEN THE NEXT TWO PROPOSALS, PROPOSAL 3 AND 4 ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AS ONE AND TWO, EXCEPT WE'RE SWITCHING OVER TO THE CIGNA COVERAGE FOR VISION AND DENTAL AND YOU'LL SEE THOSE RATES ARE A LITTLE BIT LOWER.
THEN PROPOSAL 4 WE'RE USING THE MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FUND TO FUND THOSE HSA CONTRIBUTIONS.
>> GO AHEAD. IS THE HSA TAXABLE TO THE EMPLOYEE?
IF YOU'RE PAYING PREMIUMS, YOU'RE PAYING THEM AT TAX?
>> PREMIUMS ARE ALSO PRE-TAX. ARE THEY?
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>> THANK YOU FOR CALLING. [LAUGHTER] SO HSA, DO YOU HAVE TO USE IT DURING THE YEAR, USE IT OR LOSE IT?
>> YOU DO NOT. THAT IS A FLEX.
SO YOU CAN FILL THIS UP AS PART OF YOUR RETIREMENT?
>> YES. ACTUALLY, THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DO WITH HSA ACCOUNTS, IS THEY CONTINUE TO BUILD THEM THROUGH RETIREMENT.
IF YOU STILL HAVE A BALANCE, YOU CAN USE THOSE FOR SOME MEDICAID PLANS.
NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT SOME MEDICAID PLANS ARE ELIGIBLE TO BE PURCHASED WITH HSA DOLLARS.
>> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE ANALYSIS FOR THE TWO WORST CASE SCENARIOS TIER 1 VERSUS [INAUDIBLE].
EVEN THOUGH THE DEDUCTIBLE IS LOWER ON THE TIER 1, ARE YOU FACTORING IN THE COPAY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IS THAT WHY IT ENDS UP THE SAME?
>> SO IF YOU GO BACK UP TO PROPOSAL 1, ANDREA, IF YOU TAKE THE AMOUNT OF PREMIUMS THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR PROPOSAL 1, SO LET'S SAY YOU'RE A SINGLE PLUS FAMILY.
THE $587.34 TIMES 12 MONTHS GETS YOU TO ALMOST $8,000.
SO YOU OUT OF POCKET $8,000 NO MATTER WHAT.
SO YOUR TOTAL OUT OF POCKET ON THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN FOR A FAMILY IS $13,000.
SO THEN IF ONE PERSON HAS A TRAUMATIC EVENT, YOUR DEDUCTIBLE IS $1,000 YOUR TOTAL OUT OF POCKETS $2,500.
SO NOW YOU'RE ALREADY TO $10,500.
IF YOU HAVE ONE PERSON ON THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN THAT HAS A TRAUMATIC EVENT, YOU'RE AT 6,500.
IF YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE ON YOUR TRADITIONAL PLAN, YOUR TOTAL OUT OF POCKET IS GOING TO BE $5,000 PLUS YOUR $8,000 IS GOING TO GET YOU TO $13,000.
YOUR TOTAL OUT OF POCKET ON YOUR HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN IS $13,000.
SO WHAT IT ENDS UP BEING IS YOUR WORST YEAR, AND IT'S GOING TO VARY CASE BY CASE.
IT'S GOING TO VARY IF YOU HAVE IN NETWORK OUT OF NETWORK.
THERE'S GOING TO BE LITTLE THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE USUAL AND CUSTOMARY CHARGES, BUT JUST LOOKING AT A STRAIGHT SHOT, YOUR WORST YEAR LOOKS VERY SIMILAR BETWEEN A TRADITIONAL PLAN AND A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN.
YOU BETTER YEAR LOOKS MUCH BETTER ON A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE HSA CONTRIBUTIONS, YOU'RE GETTING THE BENEFIT OF BEING ABLE TO SAVE THOSE DOLLARS, NOT SPEND THE $8,000 OUT OF POCKET.
BEST YEAR ON A TRADITIONAL PLAN, YOU'RE STILL SPENDING $8,000.
BEST YEAR ON A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN, 173 TIMES 12, AND YOU'RE SAVING THAT MONEY.
SO THE DIFFERENCE IN WORST YEARS, IT'S NOT THAT MUCH, BUT THE DIFFERENCE IN BEST YEARS IS MUCH BETTER ON THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN.
>> I GUESS TWO QUESTIONS. ONE, I KNOW YOU HAD SOME MEETINGS.
WHAT WAS THE FEEDBACK ON GOING ONLY TO ONE PLAN OPTION? THEN HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE CURRENTLY ENROLLED IN EACH OF THE TIERS.
>> THE FIRST MEETING THAT WE HAD ON THE INSURANCE WAS THE BEFORE SPRING BREAK AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THE BID INFORMATION BEFORE SPRING BREAK.
THE SECOND MEETING WAS RIGHT AFTER SPRING BREAK IN PREPARATION TO TRY AND GET SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR THIS MEETING.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF PARTICIPATION IN THE STEERING COMMITTEE THIS YEAR.
WE ALSO DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE ONLY PLAN IN THE STEERING COMMITTEE BECAUSE THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP FROM A TRUSTEE AFTER THOSE MEETINGS WERE COMPLETED.
SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT.
WE DID TALK THROUGH THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS ON WHAT PLANS TO CHOOSE.
IN ANTICIPATION OF HAVING FOUR OPTIONS, HEATHER AND I HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, HOW DO WE HELP STAFF UNDERSTAND THIS SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE THE BEST CHOICE OF THEM? I'VE HAD ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS ALREADY WITH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT STAFF THAT HAVE REVIEWED THE BOARD AGENDA AND BOARD NOTES.
IT IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF HAVING CONVERSATIONS EXPLAINING.
WE ALREADY HAVE OUR MEETINGS SCHEDULED AT EVERY BUILDING.
TAMMY AND MARK FROM HUB ARE COMING.
WE ALSO HAVE TWO PEOPLE FROM CIGNA THAT ARE COMING TO TOUR THE SCHOOLS, HAVE THOSE MEETINGS, BE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS, AND THEN HEATHER AND I AND HEATHER.
K WILL ALSO BE OUT OF BUILDINGS.
>> SURE. I JUST HAD A QUESTION,
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KRISTEN, AS TO, AT THE VERY BEGINNING, YOU SAID THAT WE MAY BE SWITCHING FROM GUARDIAN TO CIGNA? IS THAT PART OF ALL THESE PROPOSALS?>> THAT'S FOR VISION AND DENTAL.
WE ALREADY HAVE OUR INSURANCE THROUGH CIGNA.
SO SWITCHING OUR VISION AND DENTAL FROM GUARDIAN TO CIGNA WOULD BE THE ONE CHANGE ON OUR INSURANCE, BUT SWITCHING TO CIGNA ACTUALLY OFFERS MORE PROVIDERS IN OUR AREA.
>> YES. BY MAYBE $75,000 A YEAR.
>> SO WHEN I'M READING DOWN THROUGH ALL THESE PROPOSALS, IS THAT IN ONE OF THESE PROPOSALS TO SWITCH THE VISION AND DENTAL?
>> -INCLUDE CIGNA DENTAL AND VISION.
>> IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS ON INSURANCE, I'LL MOVE THROUGH THE REST OF THIS DOCUMENT, WHICH PROVIDES A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS DECISION.
SO THE NEXT TOPIC IS THE REGIONAL COST ADJUSTMENT.
IN FY 22, THIS BOARD APPROVED TO PAY SALARIES AT 168% RCA, AND THAT WAS AHEAD OF WHAT THE STATE WAS FUNDING US AT THAT TIME.
NEXT YEAR, THE STATE WILL BE FUNDING US AT 167% RCA.
SO WE'RE NOT QUITE CAUGHT UP TO WHAT THE CURRENT RATE OF FUNDING WILL BE.
GIVEN THAT INFORMATION, I ALSO HAD A TRUSTEE REACH OUT AND ASK WHAT IT WOULD COST TO INCREASE THE RCA.
SO IT'S ABOUT $217,988 PER 1% OF RCA.
WE JUST, TODAY, RECEIVED THE WYOMING ECONOMIC ANALYSIS DIVISION REPORT, WHICH I PUT ON IN FRONT OF ALL OF YOU GUYS.
THE BEST PAGE TO LOOK AT IS PAGE 2.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR MOST RECENT WYOMING COST OF LIVING INDEX IS AT 174.
THIS IS THE REGIONAL COST INDEX THAT WE ARE FUNDED ON IN THE MODEL.
SO TODAY, I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH BIG HORN SCHOOL DISTRICT, GOSHEN SCHOOL DISTRICT AND LARAMIE TOO.
THE INTERESTING THING THAT I THOUGHT, SO ANY DISTRICT THAT ISN'T AT 100% RCA, THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY DEFAULTED TO 100% RCA.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT BIGHORN IS AT 87.
THE AUTOMATICALLY GET 100% FUNDING FOR THEIR SALARIES.
GOSHEN IS AT 86, THEY AUTOMATICALLY GO TO 100% FOR THEIR SALARIES.
EVEN GIVEN THAT INFORMATION, AND LARAMIE TOO IS AT 104, I THINK.
I ASKED THEM, WHAT'S YOUR EMPLOYEE SPLIT FOR YOUR BENEFITS PACKAGES? BIGHORN DOES 90-10 WITH THEIR LOWEST PREMIUM WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES.
SO THEIR EMPLOYEES PAY 10% OF THEIR LOWEST PREMIUM, WHICH IS A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE WITH NO HSA CONTRIBUTION.
GOSHEN COUNTY DOES AN 88%-12% SPLIT OF THEIR LOWEST INSURANCE OPTION, AND LARAMIE DOES 90-10.
THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE EVEN IN THOSE COUNTIES WHERE THEY'RE FUNDED ABOVE THEIR RCA, THEY'RE STILL DOING AN EMPLOYEE PORTION OF THEIR PREMIUMS. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO NOT DO THAT IN OUR DISTRICT, WHICH I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT THIS BOARD SHOULD BE REALLY PROUD OF.
BUT IT IS GETTING HARDER AND HARDER AND HARDER TO DO THAT.
SO OUR CURRENT RCA IS AT 174%, WHICH MEANS THAT OUR STAFF AND EMPLOYEES ARE FEELING THE SQUEEZE OF INFLATION.
SO IF WE WERE TO PAY AT 171%, WHICH WAS SECOND QUARTER 2023 WCLI, IT'S GOING TO COST ABOUT 600,000-650,000.
IF WE WERE TO PAY AT OUR CURRENT RCA, WE'RE AT 174%, IT WOULD BE 1.3 MILLION IN ADDITION TO THE STEP INCREASE, WHICH IS ABOUT $650,000.
SO THAT'S JUST A LITTLE INFORMATION TO MOLE OVER AS WE START TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE BUDGETS.
I KNOW THAT THE CLOSE OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS SENT OUT A REPORT THAT SAID TETON COUNTY WAS GOING TO GET 3.3 MILLION INCREASE IN DOLLARS.
THEY HAVE SOME MODELS AND SOME FORMULAS THAT THEY USED TO COME UP WITH THOSE NUMBERS.
WHEN I DID THE CALCULATIONS FOR US IN OUR DISTRICT, I CAME UP WITH 2.4, NOT 3.3.
I THINK THAT THAT'S A PRETTY ACCURATE NUMBER.
SO WE'RE NOT GETTING 3.3 MILLION.
IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSER TO 2.4 MILLION.
>> IF THEY SEND US 3.3, DON'T SEND ANYTHING BACK. [LAUGHTER]
>> WELL, INTERESTING YOU BRING THAT UP.
I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SENATOR BITEMAN OVER SPRING BREAK.
I TOLD HIM THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO SEND OUR RCA MONEY,
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OUR RECAPTURE MONEY IN JUNE.I SAID WE ONLY ASKED FOR 40 MILLION AND OUR RECAPTURE IS 80, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEND IT TO YOU ANYMORE.
HIS RESPONSE WAS, WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY'D DO? [LAUGHTER] I DON'T KNOW.
HE'S LIKE, YOU SHOULD SNIP IT AND SEE.
>> S [INAUDIBLE], AS WE APPROVE THAT [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE WENT OVER THE STEP INCREASE.
THE OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE IMPACTING OUR EXPENDITURE BUDGET NEXT YEAR, OBVIOUSLY, THE SR TEACHING POSITIONS THAT WE'RE BRINGING BACK INTO THE MODEL ADD FIVE TEACHERS IS $1.2 MILLION.
WE HAVE SOME INCREASES TO OPERATIONAL COSTS IN FACILITIES, TECHNOLOGY, AND FOOD SERVICE THAT ARE APPROXIMATELY $300,000, AND WE STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED OUR LIABILITY INSURANCE RENEWAL, WHICH WE WILL LIKELY GET IN MAY OR JUNE.
THOSE ARE SOME THINGS TO KEEP IN BACK YOUR MIND.
>> DO YOU EXPECT ANY SURPRISES WITH THAT?
>> I'M NOT CALLING YOU. BUT THERE'S NOTHING GLARING THOUGH.
>> THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S TELLING YOU WE SHOULD HAVE A SURPRISE.
CYBER IS ALWAYS A WILD CARD AND WE DIDN'T RECEIVE A HUGE INCREASE IN OUR CYBER INSURANCE LAST YEAR, BUT I FEEL LIKE JUST WITH WHERE WE ARE NATIONALLY WITH CYBER THREATS ON KEY 12 INSTITUTIONS, THAT'S A TOSS UP.
THE OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE IMPACTING OUR REVENUE BUDGET.
INTEREST RATES. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE BUDGETED AT ALMOST $1.4 MILLION IN INTEREST.
IF THAT WERE TO TAKE A DIVE, THAT'S A PRETTY BIG HIT TO OUR REVENUE BUDGET.
I WAS MORE SPECIFIC HERE WITH THE ECA AT THE BOTTOM, WHICH IS THAT 3.3 VERSUS 2.4 MILLION.
>> KRISTEN, HOW MUCH ARE WE REIMBURSED FROM THE STATE FOR OUR HEALTH INSURANCE? WHAT'S THE GAP BETWEEN, WHAT WE HAVE TO PAY AND WHAT THE STATE IS NEXT?
>> WE'RE FUNDED. IT'S ON THE FIRST PAGE UNDER HEALTH INSURANCE, 8,273,506 WILL BE OUR FUNDING NEXT YEAR.
>> CURRENTLY, WE'RE AT 8.9 MILLION.
PROPOSAL FORWARD, BRINGING THE TOTAL COST TO 9.1 MILLION.
BUT IF WE USE THAT MILLION DOLLARS TO FUND THE HSAS, THAT WOULD BRING OUR GENERAL FUND COST DOWN TO 8.1 MILLION, WHICH WOULD BE WITHIN REACHING DISTANCE OF OUR ACTUAL FUNDED.
>> MR. CHAIR, KRISTEN, I JUST WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH KRISTEN ABOUT THIS.
WHEN I WAS FIRST ON THE BOARD AND MATT RUDOWSKI WAS OUR FINANCE GUIDE, WE WERE REALLY HAVING TROUBLE WITH INSURANCE THEN AND IN THOSE DAYS, SCHOOL DISTRICT DIDN'T HAVE MUCH MONEY, WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS REGIONAL COST OF THIS HUGE AMOUNT WE HAVE NOW.
HE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH LIKE YOU DO, AND HE WAS CONVINCED THAT A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN MAKES BETTER HEALTHCARE CONSUMERS OUT OF OUR STAFF.
NOW, I VOTED FOR IT, BUT I WAS NOT NECESSARILY CONVINCED.
FOR MANY YEARS, WE JUST HAD HIGH DEDUCTIBLE INSURANCE PLANS FOR THE MISTAKE.
I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER ALONG THE WAY WHERE SUDDENLY WE HAD ALL THE SEVERAL OTHER OPTIONS. I BRING THIS UP.
KEITH, YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS, BUT BECAUSE FOR MANY YEARS, WE DID NOT HAVE INSURANCE PREMIUM INCREASES.
WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE AND MAYBE HE WAS RIGHT.
MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT EMPLOYEES BECAME GREAT HEALTHCARE CONSUMERS AND SHOPPED AROUND FOR THEIR HEALTH CARE BECAUSE THEY HAD THESE NICE HSAS WHICH ARE REALLY AWESOME.
YOU CAN TAKE WITH YOU IF YOU LEAVE YOUR JOB, RETIRE WITH IT AS YOU MENTIONED.
I MENTIONED THIS TO KRISTEN BECAUSE EVERY YEAR I LOOK AT THAT MILLION DOLLAR NUMBER AND SAY, REALLY, THAT BELONGS TO OUR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE IT WAS PREMIUMS PAID IN BEFORE WE CHANGED OUR POLICY.
SHOULDN'T WE USE THAT FOR HSAS FOR EVERYBODY TO GET SOME MONEY.
NOW, THE TRADITIONAL PLAN, AS KRISTEN SAID, DOESN'T COME WITH AN HSA OPTION.
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MY THOUGHT PROCESS WAS THAT, HEY, MAYBE WE COULD GO BACK TO NOT HAVING SUCH DRAMATIC 8, 10 PERCENT INCREASES IN OUR PREMIUMS IF WE GO BACK TO THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE.IT'S A STRAIN FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T HAD HOA FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE THAT FIRST YEAR WOULD BE TOP.
BUT, TECHNICALLY, THAT MONEY BALANCE THE TEACHERS FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.
WHY DON'T WE USE IT TO MAYBE TRY TO HELP TEACHERS OUT WITH THE HSA AND REDUCE OURS.
THAT WAS THE IDEA I HAD WHEN I WAS TALKING TO KRISTEN ABOUT THIS.
>> MAYBE MORE OF A QUESTION TO THE TREASURER TO THE CHAIR.
WHAT IS OUR TIMELINE? IT SEEMS THOUGH WE HAVE A LOT OF BIG DECISIONS.
WHEN ARE WE VOTING ON THE COMPENSATION PACKAGE, AND WHEN DO YOU NEED THE HEALTH INSURANCE TO BE DONE? I KNOW WE LIKE TO VOTE ON A LOT OF THESE BEFORE YOU GET TO THE FINAL BUDGET.
BUT WHAT'S THE FINAL DATE BEFORE BUDGET HAS TO BE APPROVED, I GUESS, IS WHAT I'M ASKING.
>> TONIGHT THE INSURANCE NEEDS TO BE APPROVED.
YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS UNDER THE ACTION ITEM FOR INSURANCE.
ONE IS TO KEEP THE FOUR OPTIONS AT EITHER PROPOSAL 2 OR PROPOSAL 4.
THE OTHER OPTION IS HIGH DEDUCTIBLE ONLY.
I GUESS THAT'S ONE OR THREE AND THEN TWO AND FOUR.
THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED TONIGHT BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE IT TAKES TO GET STAFF ENROLLED, HAVE OPEN ENROLLMENT, DO ALL OF THE MEETINGS OUT AT THE SCHOOLS.
WE HAVE TO GET ALL OF THE DOCUMENTATION TOGETHER TO GO HAVE THOSE MEETINGS SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SIGNING UP FOR, AND THEN ALL OF OUR INFORMATION HAS TO BE TO CIGNA BY JUNE 1.
WE HAVE A VERY SHORT TIMELINE TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT AND HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND MEETINGS WITH STAFF GET THE, WE USE IT'S CALLED THE ES PORTAL TO DO THE SIGN UPS, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE TIME TO GET OUT TO THE SCHOOLS AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH EVERYONE.
THEN THEY CAN MAKE THEIR ELECTIONS, AND THEN WE HAVE TO COMPILE ALL THAT DATA AND GET IT OVER TO CIGNA.
TONIGHT ON INSURANCE COMPENSATION PACKAGE CAN WAIT MAY, JUNE, AND THEN BUDGETS THIRD WEEK OF JULY.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M WONDERING I GUESS, ONE OF MY CONCERNS AND I'D BE INTERESTED IN WHAT OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THINK THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE FOR OUR STAFF TO SEE THESE FOUR PROPOSALS.
SOUNDS LIKE THERE WAS TWO MEETINGS, BUT NEITHER OF THOSE MEETINGS WAS THE PROPOSAL.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE NEED TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
I GET THAT THIS NEEDS TO PROGRESS QUICKLY.
BUT I ALMOST FEEL AS THOUGH WE NEED SOME INPUT FROM OUR EMPLOYEES BEFORE WE MAKE SUCH A DRAMATIC DECISION.
MY CONCERN ALSO IS WE WENT THROUGH A PRETTY INTENSE SWITCH OVER LAST YEAR.
OUR EMPLOYEES WERE VERY PATIENT AND AND KRISTEN DID AN AMAZING JOB AND HEATHER OF GETTING EVERYONE SWITCHED OVER.
IT GETS A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC WHEN WE'RE DOING IT EVERY YEAR, WHERE WE'RE CHANGING EVERYTHING.
I GET THAT BECAUSE OF MONEY, WE WANT TO DO WHAT'S COST EFFICIENT.
BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE NEED TO GET SOME INPUT FROM OUR EMPLOYEES AND I'D BE WILLING TO ATTEND A SPECIAL MEETING LATER IN THIS MONTH IF THAT'S NECESSARY, IF WAITING TILL THE MAY MEETING IS NOT FEASIBLE.
>> I GUESS, WHAT IS THE DROP DEAD DATE ON THE WINDOW SIGN YOU TO KNOW?
>> THE PROBLEM IS TOMORROW IS THE DEADLINE, KEITH, AND WE THREW UP SPRING BREAK INTO THE MIDDLE OF THIS. KRISTEN.
LET'S SAY WE HAVE MEETINGS, LET'S SAY WE GET FEEDBACK.
THE ONLY THING WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK ON IS WHETHER WE DO FOUR PLAN OPTIONS OR ONE.
THESE ARE THE RATES. IT'S THE ONLY BED WE HAVE.
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CHOICE HERE EXCEPT IF WE KEEP GORE PLANS OR ONE.
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THAT BEING SAID, I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO HAVE THAT FEEDBACK.WE SENT OUT THE INSURANCE STEERING COMMITTEE INFORMATION TO EVERY STAFF MEMBER AND ASK FOR PEOPLE TO ATTEND.
I HAD FIVE STAFF MEMBERS OUTSIDE OF DO OFFICE STAFF ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS? THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.
WE'LL KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA, SO WE'LL KEEP MOVING TOWARDS THAT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER WONDERFUL THINGS FOR US [INAUDIBLE].
>> ONE MORE ATTACHMENT. I HAD A REQUEST THAT THE ANALYTICAL ANALYSIS THAT'S POSTED HERE FROM CIGNA.
THIS IS THE CONSULTATIVE ANALYSIS REPORT THAT THEY SENT US.
THERE'S SOME GOOD INFORMATION IN THERE.
THEY CAN'T DIAL IT DOWN TOO MUCH BECAUSE THEN WE'D HAVE THE EMPLOYEE INFORMATION.
BUT HEATHER AND I DO REVIEW THE DATA QUITE REGULARLY.
THE REASON OUR PREMIUMS ARE GOING UP IS BECAUSE OUR TOTAL BUDGETED CLAIMS FOR THIS YEAR WERE FIVE MILLION.
WE'RE ALREADY THERE EIGHT MONTHS IN. THAT'S WHY IT'S GOING UP.
WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT IT, IS THERE ANYTHING WE COULD DO THROUGH A WELLNESS PROGRAM TO HELP BRING THESE RATES DOWN? CIGNA IS DOING THEIR PART.
THEY HAVE CONTACTED EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE MRI SCHEDULED AT CERTAIN FACILITIES, AND SAY, "COULD YOU GO HERE? IT'S CHEAPER. IF YOU GO TO THIS OTHER FACILITY." IT'S BECOME A REALLY GOOD WORKING PARTNERSHIP, AND WE HAVE HAD IMPROVEMENTS ON MOST OF OUR LARGEST COMPLAINTS.
NO INSURANCE IS PERFECT, AND WE'LL PROBABLY ALWAYS HAVE SOME STANDING COMPLAINTS.
EVEN THE STEERING COMMITTEE, THE FEW PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED WERE SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE.
STAY WITH CIGNA, TRY AND GET SOMETHING ELSE.
THIS ECONOMIC ANALYSIS THAT WAS JUST COMPLETED TODAY.
IT WASN'T PUBLISHED AT 8:00 AM THIS MORNING.
IF YOU TURN TO PAGE 4 OF IT, TABLE 3, IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 2023, US CPI FIRST COLUMN.
THIS IS THE NATIONAL INFLATION RATE OF 3.4%.
YOU GO BACK TO SECOND QUARTER '23, ONE LINE UP, WAS 3%, AND WE'RE AT 6.5% UP HERE.
THAT'S COOKING IN A REGION THAT IS DEFINED AS FREMONT COUNTY WITH THE COST OF LIVING INDEX AT 96.
>> HOT SPRINGS, 87 WASHER KEY, 86, BIGHORN, 87, PARK, 96, AND TETON, 174.
I'M NOT SURPRISED INSURANCE RATES WENT UP.
THERE'S BEEN REPORTS, AUTO INSURANCE RATES HAVE GONE UP 25%.
THIS IS JUST EXPENSIVE PART OF DOING BUSINESS.
IF YOU TURN TO PAGE, JUST FOR EVERYONE'S LOOK, PAGE 6.
TABLE 4 AVERAGE RENTAL RATES FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER AND THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 2022.
FOURTH QUARTER, OVER THE LAST YEAR, OUR RENTAL RATES ON A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT UNFURNISHED, EXCLUDES GAS AND ELECTRIC, ROSE 12.5% IN TETON COUNTY FROM 2,893-3,256.
>> WE'RE IN A HIGH INFLATIONARY SYSTEM, AND THERE'S NO STOP AT THIS.
WE ALL FEEL THAT WE'RE NOT IN THE IN FRONT OF SITTING IN PEER TO FRONT. WE'RE ALL FEELING IT.
PERSONALLY, I'M JUST GOING TO THROW IT OUT.
JUST TO PLAN FOR HERE, HIGH DEDUCTIBLE.
GO TO THE HSA, AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO RCA TIME,
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WE LOOK AT 172, 173, AND 174 FOR THE COMING YEARS.WE FUNDED THROUGH SAVINGS OF THE INITIAL SERVICES.
PROBABLY A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER TO GIVE YOU MY THOUGHTS, BUT WHEN THIS REPORT CAME OUT TODAY, I WAS FILLED WITH ALL THOUGHTS.
>> WELL, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM FAIR THAT THE BASE IS 100.
I PAID 100, AND SO THEY HAVE A GAP OF RCA.
IF YOU WERE UP AT THE TOP, THEY PUNISH YOU.
>> THEY WILL BE REVISITING THE RCA IN THE REPORT.
THOSE ARE GOING TO BE BIG CONVERSATIONS OF BRINGING IN CONSULTANTS AGAIN.
I DO THINK THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND ANOTHER CONSULTANT OUTSIDE OF LORI TAYLOR, WHO USUALLY DOES THAT ANALYSIS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'LL HAVE MUCH LUCK, BUT THE WYOMING FUNDING MODEL IS SO UNIQUE IN THE WAY THAT THEY APPLY THE REGIONAL COST ADJUSTMENT THAT IT'S HARD TO FIND EXPERTS IN THAT FIELD.
LET'S THROW THAT OUT OR JANINE.
>> THIS SHOULD REMIND EVERYONE HOW THE MODELS FOR THE RCA FOR US?
>> IT'S THE AVERAGE OF THE LAST, SO THEY TAKE THE FOURTH, AND SECOND QUARTER OF THE LAST THREE YEARS.
THAT'S WHY OUR PAID RCA FOR NEXT YEAR IS 167%, BECAUSE OF INFLATION.
BECAUSE THE RATES ARE RISING SO FAST, THE RCA ISN'T ABLE TO KEEP UP BECAUSE OF THE AVERAGE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.
ALL OTHER COMPONENTS IN THE MODEL, INCLUDING ADM, PRETTY MUCH EVERY OTHER MODEL IS THE GREATER OF PRIOR YEAR OR THE LAST THREE YEARS, AND THEY'VE JUST CHANGED THAT, JUST TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, THEY CHANGED THAT WITH ADM TO BE DISTRICT WIDE INSTEAD OF SITE BASED.
IT MAKES SENSE THAT ALL COMPONENTS IN THE FUNDING MODEL WOULD BE THE GREATER OF PRIOR YEAR OR THREE YEAR AVERAGE.
THIS IS THE LAST PIECE THAT ISN'T, AND WE'RE THE BIGGEST IMPACTED.
SUBWAY USED TO KEEP UP WITH US, BUT YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE 104%.
LINCOLN COUNTY IS STARTING TO FEEL THE PAIN.
THERE IS THIS BUSINESS MANAGER DOWN THERE, JC INSKIP, HE'S LIKE, "HOW DO YOU DO THIS?" I THINK OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE STARTING TO FEEL THE SQUEEZE, AND HOPEFULLY, THAT GETS US SOME MOMENTUM IN HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS DURING THE INTERIM.
>> JUST TO CLARIFY, WHEN WE VOTE ON THE INSURANCE LATER, AND WE'RE NOT REALLY GOING TO BE LOOKING AT HOW IT'S GOING TO GET PAID AS FAR AS THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FUND VERSUS THE GENERAL FUND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEN IT LOOKS LIKE THE TOTAL AMOUNT IN EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FUND IS A MILLION DOLLARS.
ONE OF THE PROPOSALS IS TO USE ALL OF THAT NEXT YEAR.
I GUESS YOU DISCUSS WHAT THE DRAWBACKS IS LIKE THE NEXT YEAR, THEN DOWN THIS YEAR.
>> WELL, I THINK THE IDEA, IS THAT, WE'VE BEEN SITTING ON THIS MONEY FOR SO LONG.
IF WE CAN SHIFT SOME OF THAT MONEY.
LET'S SAY, WE PAY OR HELP SUBSIDIZE OUR HEALTH INSURANCE OR HSA PREMIUMS WITH THAT MILLION DOLLAR SITTING IN THAT ACCOUNT, IT FREES UP MORE MONEY FOR SALARIES.
THEN WE'RE ABLE TO BOTH OFFER INSURANCE AND POSSIBLY GIVE INCREASES TO STAFF IN A TIME WHEN THEY'RE FEELING THE SQUEEZE FROM BOTH SIDES.
>> CAN WE JUST WORRY ABOUT NEXT YEAR?
>> A FEW THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THE ANALYTICS FROM CIGNA FOR YEARS, AND PARTICULARLY JANE TESKEY WAS CONSTANTLY WISHING WE HAD THAT FROM WEBT.
IF NOTHING ELSE, JUST BY SWITCHING TO CIGNA, IT'S GREAT BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT DOCUMENT.
I SPENT THE AFTERNOON JUST REALLY DELVING INTO THAT, AND IT WAS JUST GREAT TO HAVE IT.
I THINK FOR YEARS, WE'VE BEEN WANTING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT WAS ALWAYS SO FRUSTRATING THAT WEBT WOULD NOT PROVIDE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
HOPEFULLY, THAT HELPS WITH THE EMPLOYEE THAT WE HAVE, I CAN'T REMEMBER HER NAME, BUT HELPS US TO DESIGN OUR WELLNESS PROGRAMS AND HELPS US TO FOCUS WELLNESS PROGRAMS TO ADDRESS WHAT THE NEEDS ACTUALLY ARE.
THAT WAS GREAT. MY SECOND THING, AND WE CAN DO THIS OFFLINE, KRISTEN, BUT COULD YOU MAYBE EXPLAIN AT A LATER DATE WHY
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SUCH A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE STATE SAYS WE'RE GOING TO GET AND WHAT YOU'RE COMPUTING WE'RE GOING TO GET, WHEN THEY SEND OUT THAT CHART AND THEY SAID, WE'VE ESTIMATED THAT TETON COUNTY WILL BE GETTING 3.3 AND THEN YOU RUN THE NUMBERS AND YOU COME UP WITH 2.4, CLEARLY SOMEBODY'S NOT CARRYING THE ONE OR SOMETHING THERE.>> THAT'S NOT A LITTLE DIFFERENCE, AND SO I'D LOVE TO KNOW A MORE IN DEPTH ANSWER.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'M NOT SURE I NEED THE ANSWER, BUT IF WE COULD COMMUNICATE IT TO THE STATE THAT THEIR MATH IS OFF SOMEHOW.
>> MART WILL MARTHA IS PRETTY PROTECTIVE OF HIS ASSUMPTIONS THAT HE USES TO MAKE THOSE PROJECTIONS.
I'VE ASKED THE QUESTION IN THE PAST.
I WILL DEFINITELY ASK IT AGAIN.
>> BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO BUDGET.
IF THE STATE SAID YOU'RE GOING TO GET 3.3, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE YOU SITTING THERE COMPUTING THAT, WE MIGHT HAVE JUST GONE WITH THAT AND THEN SUDDENLY YOU'RE NOT.
THAT'S THE FRUSTRATING WAY TO DO BUDGETING.
I APPRECIATE YOU FIGURING OUT THE REAL NUMBER.
I GUESS MY REAL QUESTION IS MORE TO THE CHAIR.
COULD YOU WALK THROUGH THAT PROPOSAL YOU JUST SAID A LITTLE SLOWER.
WERE YOU SAYING THAT WE WOULD GO FROM 167-171 NEXT YEAR THEN THE NEXT YEAR, 172? THEN WHERE WERE YOU PROPOSING TO GET THAT MONEY FROM?
>> KEITH, MY THOUGHT WAS WE APPROVE THE HEALTHCARE TONIGHT AND THEN WE LOOK AND ANALYZE OVER THE 172, 173 OR 174 FOR NEXT YEAR'S RCA. [OVERLAPPING].
>> YOU'RE JUST SAYING IT'S ONE OF THOSE NUMBERS.
[OVERLAPPING] I WAS GOING TO FUND IT AT OUR FUTURE MEETING.
SOME OF IT WILL BE FROM THE, WHAT WAS THE?
>> THE HSA FUNDING IF WE GO WITH THE.
>> IT'S A MILLION DOLLARS, 178 FOR EVERY PERSON THAT'S ENROLLED PER MONTH.
THAT IS JUST FOR THE HSA FUNDING.
IF YOU WENT WITH A PROPOSAL FOR IT, IT DOES FREE UP.
YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE COST 9.8 MILLION VERSUS 8.1, IT BRINGS THE GENERAL FUND WITHIN THAT TOTAL FUNDING FROM THE STATE, WHICH DOES FREE UP THAT MONEY FOR SALARIES.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT 1.7 MILLION, I GUESS IS WHAT IT WOULD BE OR 1.8 MILLION, YOU ADD THE 600,000 FIRST STEP, 1.3 FOR 174% RCA, AND YOU GET TO THE 1.8 MILLION.
>> KRISTEN, CAN YOU DO THAT ONE MORE TIME? [LAUGHTER]
>> I FOLLOWED ATTENTIVELY, KRISTEN.
>> IF I'M LOOKING AT PROPOSAL 4, THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURE IS 8.1 MILLION.
IF I'M LOOKING AT PROPOSAL 3, THE TOTAL GENERAL EXPENDITURE IS 9.9 MILLION.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF 1.8 MILLION THERE.
A STEP INCREASE COSTS $600,000.
IF WE WERE TO INCREASE FROM 168% RCA, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE PAYING NOW TO 174% RCA, IT'S $1.3 MILLION.
SO 1.3 PLUS THE $600,000 STEP IS $1.9 MILLION.
THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN PROPOSAL 3 AND 4.
YOU'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO PAY MORE MONEY OUT IN SALARIES WHILE DECREASING THE AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE PAYING IN BENEFITS, AND THEN WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THE WORST YEAR VERSUS THE BEST YEAR, THOSE LOOK VERY DIFFERENT.
WHAT THAT DOES, NOT ONLY DOES THAT INCREASE THE MONEY THAT'S GOING INTO STAFF POCKETS, IT ALSO ACTUALLY INCREASES THEIR LONG TERM RETIREMENT BECAUSE YOUR RETIREMENT IS BASED ON YOUR HIGHEST THREE YEARS AVERAGE SALARY.
IF WE CAN INCREASE THAT, THE LONG TERM PAYOUT OF THOSE INCREASES IS FAR MORE BENEFICIAL THAN PAYING THAT MONEY OUT IN BENEFITS.
>> I FOLLOWED WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
IF YOU'RE SAYING WE WOULD GO FROM168-174, IS THAT ACCOMPLISHED BY CHANGING ALL THE NUMBERS IN THE MATRIX OR?
>> ALL THOSE NUMBERS THAT WE SEE IN THE COMPENSATION PACKAGE WOULD ALL CHANGE SO INSTEAD, AND SO EMPLOYEES WOULD GET TWO THINGS.
ONE, THEY WOULD GET THEIR STEP INCREASE. THAT'S ONE THING.
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PLUS, ALL THOSE NUMBERS WOULD CHANGE TO TAKE THEM FROM 168-174 SO THOSE NUMBERS WOULD BE MUCH GREATER.>> YES. BUT IT'S NOT A STRAIGHT 6% INCREASE.
YOU HAVE TO DIVIDE BY 168 AND MULTIPLY BY 171.
>> [OVERLAPPING] I THINK I'VE MADE THIS MISTAKE IN THE PAST.
>> KRISTEN HAS EXPLAINED THAT TO ME.
I APOLOGIZE I'M NOT THERE TONIGHT, AND I APOLOGIZE I KEEP ASKING FOR REPEATS.
>> NEVER MIND. I THINK IT'S SO THAT THEN THE MILLION THAT'S IN THAT EMPLOYEE BENEFIT FUND IS ALREADY IN WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
>> THE TOTAL COST TO TCSD WOULD BE 9.1 MILLION, BUT WE'RE TAKING THE MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FUND.
THE GENERAL FUND COST IS 8.1, AND OUR GENERAL FUND FUNDING IS 8.2.
JUST ANOTHER NOTE, IF WE STAYED WITH WEBT, OUR INCREASE WAS GOING TO BE 8.5%, NOT SIX.
>> THAT MILLION DOLLAR BASICALLY FUNDS THE $173 PER MONTH, $2,000 PER YEAR HSA ACCOUNTS PER PARTICIPANT IN THE HEALTH INSURANCE PROGRAMS?
>> HASN'T MILLION DOLLARS BEEN EARNING INTEREST AT ALL? I'M JUST CURIOUS.
>> WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER ONE MILLION DOLLARS IN THERE AND WHAT WE USE IT FOR, SO WE'RE SELF INSURED DENTAL NO MATTER WHICH DENTAL WERE WITH.
ALL OF OUR PREMIUMS GO THROUGH THAT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FUND.
THAT BECOMES OUR PASS THROUGH FOR THE DEDUCTIONS THAT COME OUT OF EMPLOYEE PAYCHECKS, THE AMOUNT THAT TCSD IS PAYING INTO, THAT ALL GOES INTO THAT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS ACCOUNT, AND THEN WE PAY ALL OF THE PREMIUMS OUT OF THAT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS ACCOUNT.
THE GOAL IS TO KEEP ENOUGH IN THERE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE PASS THROUGHS.
>> ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? WE'LL HAVE MORE CHANCE TO REHASH ALL OF THIS IN A LITTLE BIT.
[LAUGHTER] THANK YOU, KRISTEN, FOR TAKING YOUR TIME ON THAT ALL.
>> THE DRAFT COMPENSATION PACKAGE IS TOASTED.
I CAN UPDATE THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
I'LL PROBABLY UPDATE IT TO 174% RCA FOR THE MAY MEETING, AND THEN I'LL SEND OUT SCENARIOS OF 170, 171, 172, 173.
>> THANK YOU. TRUSTEES, I WILL BE BRIEF.
THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THE LEADER'S UPDATE ABOUT OUR CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
TO KEEP THE BOARD INFORMED, JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, AS SOON AS WE ARE IN AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, WE'LL HAVE MONTHLY REPORTS FROM OUR PROJECT MANAGER, IAN WOLFLEY.
FOR NOW, UNTIL WE'RE IN THAT ACTIVE PHASE, WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE LEADER'S REPORT, BUT OF COURSE, HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THE ONLY UPDATE THAT I WANTED TO PROVIDE IS DURING BREAK AT THE END OF MARCH, THE STATE CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT HAD THEIR SCHOOL FACILITIES COMMISSION MEETING, AND WE HAVE NOW PASSED THE NEXT HURDLE IN THIS PROCESS AND WE'LL HAVE A MOST COST-EFFECTIVE REMEDY STUDY FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL ADDITION.
THIS IS A BIG DEAL BECAUSE THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS THE STATE SENDS THEIR CONSULTANTS, THEY REVIEW OUR DATA, THEY REVIEW THE HOUSING PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE, THEY REVIEW OUR BIRTH RATES, AND NATIONALLY, BIRTH RATES ARE DOWN, HOWEVER, OUR DISTRICT IS GROWING.
JUST TODAY, WE LEARNED THAT OUR KINDERGARTEN CLASS ALREADY IS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE IN WHAT WE NORMALLY PREDICT.
WE HAVE 207 KINDERGARTENERS RIGHT NOW, AND NEXT YEAR, WE'RE PREDICTING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 224-236.
SO OUR ENROLLMENT IS CONTINUING TO GROW, AND AS A REMINDER, WE DON'T LOSE KIDS YEAR-OVER-YEAR,
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SO WE'RE AT 100% COHORT SURVIVAL.THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE REMEDY STUDY, CONSULTANTS WILL COME IN.
GOOD NEWS, WE'VE DONE PRETTY MUCH ALL THE WORK, AND WHAT THEY'LL BE DOING IS WORKING WITH OUR TEAM REVIEWING THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE, REVIEWING THE DATA, AND TOURING THE SCHOOL TO SEE HOW IT FUNCTIONS AT FULL CAPACITY, AND HOPEFULLY, THEY'LL AGREE THAT OUR PLANS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE ARE THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE REMEDY STUDY; WE THINK THEY ARE, SO WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT.
I'M TOLD THIS WILL BE A FAST TRACK BECAUSE IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL PROJECT.
WE'RE HOPEFUL TO HAVE THEM SCHEDULED SOMETIME IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, I BELIEVE, AND THEN THEY'LL TAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION AT ONE OF THEIR SUMMER MEETINGS.
WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT, AND WE'RE [INAUDIBLE] UP AND WAITING.
WITH THAT, WE ARE SLOWING DOWN A LITTLE BIT ON OUR DESIGN ON THE ADDITION AND THE INTERIOR RENOVATION OF JACKSONVILLE HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT OUR DESIGN TEAM TO GET FAR AHEAD AND THEN POTENTIALLY HAVE THE CONSULTANTS GO, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF YOU LOOKED AT THIS INSTEAD? WE'RE SLOWING DOWN A LITTLE BIT JUST TO CONSERVE OUR EFFORTS AND THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE.
THAT'S THE UPDATE ON THE CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
>> SUPERINTENDENT CHAPMAN, CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T COME ON ONE OF THOSE FRIDAYS WHERE NOBODY'S THERE?
>> DIRECTOR [INAUDIBLE] WAS HERE.
THIS IS LIKE WELL, SEEMS BIG ENOUGH TO ME. [INAUDIBLE]
>> YES. WE WERE, I THINK WE WERE IN A MAKEUP TESTING SESSION WHEN DIRECTOR [INAUDIBLE] WAS PRESENT.
YES, WE WILL STRATEGICALLY PLAN.
BECAUSE NORMALLY, WE DO HAVE, IT WAS VERY COOL AND IT'S REALLY CROWDED.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CONSULTANTS SEE IT AT ITS IT'S FULL CAPACITY BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE BEST INPUT AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
THAT'S THAT UPDATE. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CHARLOTTE FOR THIS NEXT PIECE.
>> ACTUALLY, WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] AND JOHNNY ZIEM FROM THE TOWN OF JACKSON TO PRESENT OPTIONS THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT FOR GREGORY LANE.
>> IF I CAN I CAN ASK THEM TO COME ON UP, BUT ALSO TRY TO LIMIT YOUR PRESENTATION TO LESS THAN 15 MINUTES, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR US. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. BOARD CHAIR AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD.
JOHNNY ZIEM I'M THE ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR FOR THE TOWN OF JACKSON.
JUST WANT TO DO A HIGH-LEVEL CHECK-IN WITH OUR CAPITAL PROJECT THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN DESIGN ON, WHICH IS GREGORY LANE.
THE GREGORY LANE CORRIDOR ENCOMPASSES FROM SOUTH PARK LOOP ROAD DOWN THE HIGH SCHOOL ROAD.
WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A FULL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT COMPLETE STREET IN THIS CORRIDOR, NUMEROUS IMPROVEMENTS THAT I'LL HIGHLIGHT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
CAN YOU GO BACK FOR ONE? THANK YOU.
IN SUMMARY, GREGORY LANE, LIKE I SAID, GOES FROM SOUTH PARK LOOP TO HIGH SCHOOL ROAD.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS AN ESSENTIAL CORRIDOR WHEN WE LOOK AT ITS IMPACTS ON LOCAL SCHOOLS, MULTIMODAL CONNECTIVITY, AND WHAT TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WE HAVE TWO SPETS THAT WE'LL BE USING FOR THIS PROJECT, BOTH FROM THE 2014 SPET AND THE 2019 SPET.
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE [INAUDIBLE] THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WITH UPDATES TO UTILITIES, SPECIFICALLY, A NEW STORMWATER SYSTEM, NEW WATER SYSTEM, AND NEW SEWER SYSTEM.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. IS THERE A WAY TO ROTATE THIS SLIDE?
>> WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
[LAUGHTER] THE GREGORY LANE AREA, IT'S AN IMPORTANT AREA.
IT'S LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS THE ONLY REAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREA THAT WE HAVE IN THE TOWN OF JACKSON.
WHY THAT IS IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE TRANSPORTATION IN TERMS OF TRUCKING,
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ALL THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT THAT USE THAT CORRIDOR.THAT'S GOING TO INFORM HOW WE DESIGN THE ROADWAY.
THIS IS A TRANSITIONAL SUB-AREA AS INDICATED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THE OTHER BIG COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT IS THE MULTIMODAL CONNECTIVITY, I.E., A SIDEWALK.
EVERYBODY WHO'S LIVED HERE FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME WILL KNOW THE CURRENT ISSUES WITH GREGORY LANE, BOTH IN TERMS OF THE ROADWAY AND ITS LACK OF SIDEWALK.
WE HAVE GOOD CONNECTIVITY AROUND GREGORY LANE, BOTH ON SOUTH PARK LOOP ROAD, ON HIGH SCHOOL ROAD.
BUT THIS IS A CORRIDOR THAT'S LACKING THAT MAIN CONNECTIVITY BOTH FROM SOUTH PARK LOOP ROAD TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
CURRENTLY, WHERE WE'RE AT IN OUR DESIGN, WE'LL BE TAKING A STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN COUNCIL ON A SPECIAL WORKSHOP ON MAY 13TH.
STAFF WILL BE PRESENTING A RECOMMENDED DESIGN CONCEPT, WHICH BASICALLY WILL SHOW A SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ROAD.
WE'LL BE DOING REALLY GOOD MODIFICATIONS TO THE ROAD ITSELF, MAKING IT IN A LOT OF CASES WIDER AND BETTER.
THE S TURNS THAT WE ALL LOVE TO DRIVE THROUGH ARE REALLY DIFFICULT TO FIX.
THEY ARE UNIQUE IN TERMS OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY SPACE THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE CORRIDOR.
TYPICALLY, ON TOWN STREETS, WE LIKE TO HAVE 60-FEET RIGHT OF WAY.
THE HISTORY OF THIS CORRIDOR WAS THAT IT WAS IN THE COUNTY FOR A LONG TIME, IT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN.
IN I'D SAY 80% OF THE CORRIDOR, WE'RE ABOUT 40 FEET, AND THERE'S A SHORT SECTION RIGHT BY THE [INAUDIBLE], WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY 37 FEET.
WHAT I MEAN BY RIGHT OF WAYS, THAT IS THE SPACE THAT IS OWNED BY ALL OF US, THAT'S TOWN SPACE THAT WE CAN DO WORK IN AND DO IMPROVEMENTS IN.
WE HAVE TO GET VERY INNOVATIVE IN TERMS OF OUR DESIGN PROCESS AND HOW WE PLACE THE ASSETS.
BUT GOOD NEWS IS WE ARE LOOKING AT PUTTING IN A SIDEWALK.
WE ARE RECOMMENDING AN EIGHT-FOOT SIDEWALK WITH A TWO-FOOT BUFFER THAT WILL GO ON THE WEST SIDE OF GREGORY LANE FOR THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE CORRIDOR IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES.
THERE'LL BE NUMEROUS IMPROVEMENTS TO CROSSWALKS, WHICH WILL BE DOING RAISED CROSSWALKS, HOPEFULLY, SO THAT WILL BE A REALLY GOOD FEATURE.
STREETLIGHTS WILL BE A FEATURE AS WELL TO PROVIDE SAFETY AT NIGHT.
LIKE I SAID BEFORE, ANOTHER BIG COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT IS UTILITIES.
THE MILLION-DOLLAR QUESTION IS GREAT, THE DESIGN IS ALMOST DONE, YOU'LL GET IT APPROVED.
WHAT DOES CONSTRUCTION LOOK LIKE? I CAN TELL YOU CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO BE A BIG LIFT.
CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO BE DIRTY, IT'S GOING TO BE DUSTY, IT'S GOING TO BE LOUD, IT'S GOING TO BE A PAIN IN THE BUTT.
BUT STAFF WORKING WITH OUR CONTRACTOR AND OUR PROJECT MANAGER, INCLUDING MYSELF, WE WILL GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MAKE SURE WE ARE PROVIDING ACCESS TO BOTH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND TO LOCAL BUSINESSES.
THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, REPLACING SEWER LINE THAT'S OVER 1,000 LINEAR FEET AND ALMOST 1,000 LINEAR FEET OF WATER PIPES THAT ARE AGING THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.
WE DO, AS MANY OF US KNOW, HAVING EXPERIENCED GREGORY LANE IN THE SUMMER AND RAINSTORMS AND WINTER AND SNOW MELT, THERE'S NO DRAINAGE; THERE'S ZERO DRAINAGE THAT TAKES WATER CONVEYANCE AWAY FROM THE ROAD.
THAT WOULD BE A STORMWATER SYSTEM.
WE ARE LOOKING TO ALSO PUT IN A STORMWATER SYSTEM AS WELL, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT TO THE CORRIDOR, AND WITH THAT, WE'LL BE LOOKING TO PUT IN PROTECTIONS IN THE FLAT CREEK AS WELL.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. CHAIR, I'LL STAY UP FOR QUESTIONS.
>> ANY QUESTIONS? YES, TRUSTEE, DORNAN.
>> YES. CAN YOU TELL ME HOW LONG THIS CONSTRUCTION WILL LAST AND FROM WHEN TO WHEN?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, TRUSTEE DORNAN.
WE ARE HOPING THAT WE GET THE FINAL DESIGN DONE THIS FALL.
WE'LL HOPEFULLY GET APPROVAL FROM THE COUNCIL, LIKE I SAID, ON MAY 13, WHICH IS COMING UP HERE PRETTY SOON.
WE'LL GO OUT TO BID NEXT WINTER, HOPEFULLY BREAKING GROUND IN THE SPRING OF 2025.
WE ANTICIPATE TWO SUMMER CONSTRUCTION SEASONS, SO APRIL TO OCTOBER, TO GET IT FULLY COMPLETED.
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THAT'S AN ESTIMATE. WE'LL BE WORKING THROUGH OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PLANS, STAGING, THAT THING.>> YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE TOWN FOR MAKING THIS PROJECT HAPPEN.
IT'S SUPER EXCITING AND MUCH NEEDED.
I DRIVE DOWN THIS EVERY TIME I COME TO A SIMPLE DISTRICT MEETING.
ONE QUESTION I HAD WAS, I HEARD TALK THAT THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY OF A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION PATH ON THE NORTHERN END OF IT THROUGH THE NORTH PART OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PART PROPERTY.
IS THAT STILL BEING CONSIDERED?
>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE. YES, WE'VE TALKED WITH ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF CONNECTING GREGORY LANE TO POTENTIAL FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE STATE PROPERTY WITH PATHWAYS.
WE ARE WORKING WITH SOME PROPERTY OWNERS TO SEE IF THAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE.
SO FAR, IT'S NOT BEEN POSSIBLE.
THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IN CONNECTING GREGORY LANE TO THE STATE PROPERTY, WELL, THERE'S TWO.
THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT MOST OF THESE LOTS ARE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
THEY HAVE BIG TRUCKS, THEY STORE MATERIAL, THERE'S WELDING SHOPS, THERE'S NATURAL GAS, PROPANE.
IT'S NOT THE MOST INVITING PLACE TO INVITE THE PUBLIC TO CUT ACROSS.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER, AND CONTINUE TO WORK ON THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF THE PROJECT.
>> YOU HAVE QUESTIONS PRESSING [INAUDIBLE].
>> DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION, KEITH? YOU HAD YOUR MIC OFF.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO POINT OUT TO JOHNNY.
YOU KNOW, WE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS AS A BOARD BACK IN 2016.
I THINK THAT WAS ABOUT THE YEAR THAT WE REALLY GOT PUSHED BY THE STATE THAT WE HAD TO HAVE A RULE THAT IF YOU WERE WITHIN A MILE TOWARD THAT YOU CAN'T BUS KIDS.
THEY HAVE TO WALK. THEN WE REALIZED WE COULDN'T DO THAT WITH GREGORY LANE SO THERE'S BUS SERVICE THERE EVEN THOUGH IT'S CLOSE.
WE STARTED HAVING ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS, AND THEN WE TOOK THE PROPOSAL TO THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN TO GET ON THE SPAT IN 2019.
ONE OF OUR CONCERNS WAS THAT BOTH THROUGH THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN, APPROVALS WITHIN A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FOR ALL THE HOUSING.
I THINK THAT WAS OUR PRIMARY CONCERN, THAT A LOT OF HOUSING IS IN GREGORY LANE, AND A LOT OF CHILDREN LIVE IN THAT HOUSING IN GREGORY LANE, AND GREGORY LANE HAS MORPHED OUT OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO A PRETTY HEAVILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S SO MANY KIDS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO SCHOOL IN A SAFE MANNER, SO OF COURSE, THE SIDEWALK IS NECESSARY.
THAT WAS JUST A STATEMENT, BUT MY OTHER QUESTION WAS, AT THE FAR NORTHERN END, THERE'S SOME HOUSING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD, A BUNCH OF APARTMENTS.
WILL THERE BE SOME TYPE OF CROSSWALK TO GET THOSE CHILDREN ACROSS THE STREET TO THE SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE?
>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE GINGERY.
YES. I BELIEVE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TIMBERS.
>> CORRECT. TIMBERS, IN TERMS OF ITS RELATIONSHIP TO THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR OF GREGORY LANE IS UNIQUE.
IT IS A FAIRLY LARGE HOUSING COMPLEX.
THE FIRST PART OF THAT COMPLEX WAS PUT IN THE EARLY 70S.
SECOND ADDITION, PHASE 2, WAS IN THE EARLY 90S.
IN TERMS OF ALL OF THE HOUSING, THE TIMBERS IS PROBABLY THE MOST DENSE AND HAS THE MOST NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
YES, WE WILL BE PUTTING TWO CROSSWALKS, IS WHAT WE'RE DESIGNING FOR, THAT WILL TAKE PEOPLE ACROSS TO THE OTHER SIDE OF GREGORY LANE, WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD SPOT BECAUSE THAT SECTION OF GREGORY LANE BEFORE THE S TURNS, IT'S IT'S QUITE LONG AND STRAIGHT.
WE DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY CROSSWALKS ANYWHERE NEAR EITHER SIDE OF THE S TURNS BECAUSE IT'S NOT A SAFE CROSSING FROM OUR STANDPOINT.
WE ARE VERY STRATEGIC IN WHERE WE PLACE THOSE CROSSWALKS.
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WE LOOKED AT POTENTIALS OF HAVING A SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES IN THAT AREA, HAVING A SIDEWALK ON THE TIMBER SIDE.BUT STAFF DECIDED THAT IT WOULD BE BEST TO KEEP IT CONTINUOUS ON THE WEST SIDE SO WE WILL PROVIDE RAISED CROSSWALKS, HOPEFULLY, AND FLASHING ACTIVATED CROSSWALK SIDES.
JUST TO ADD TO WHAT MR. GINGERY IS TALKING ABOUT IS SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, WHICH IS SOMETHING THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY HAS BEEN WORKING ON DILIGENTLY OVER THE YEARS IN TERMS OF ADDING SIDEWALKS TO A LOT OF AREAS OF THE TOWN IN JACKSON SO KIDS CAN WALK TO SCHOOL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND SHARING THAT WITH US.
WE'RE EXCITED, AND THOSE KIDS THAT LIVE IN TIMBERS, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THEM.
HOPEFULLY WE COULD [INAUDIBLE] BUS ROUTE.
>> FOR SURE. THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE]
>> NEXT UP, MIKE HANSEN AND DR. CHAN.
I THINK I'LL JUST INTRODUCE MIKE.
>> I CAN DO IT. TONIGHT, WE HAVE THE TETON COUNTY COMMUNITY TENNIS ASSOCIATION HERE AND THEY HAVE AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM.
THIS IS NOT AN ACTION ITEM FOR YOU AT THIS POINT.
THIS IS INFORMATION, AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIANE MCGEE.
>> IF WE CAN KEEP IT TO 15 MINUTES, THAT'LL HELP US A LOT.
>> FOURTEEN MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS.
>> I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS AFTER THAT 53 SLIDE GOT SENT OUT TO US.
>> HERE'S AN APPENDIX. [INAUDIBLE] .
GOOD EVENING. [LAUGHTER] CHAIRMAN SCARLET, BOARD OF TRUSTEES, TCSD STAFF, SUPERINTENDENT CHAPMAN, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
THE TETON COUNTY COMMUNITY TENNIS ASSOCIATION IS GRATEFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU OUR QUEST FOR AFFORDABLE INDOOR TENNIS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
WE WILL GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS EFFORT, AS WELL AS SHARE PROPOSED TCSD LOCATIONS AND FACILITY OPTIONS.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO ADDRESS ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS AT THE END OR SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
I'M DIANE MCGEE, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE TCCTA AND I AM INVOLVED IN TENNIS LEADERSHIP AT LOCAL, STATE, AND REGIONAL LEVELS.
MY CAREERS OVER THE LAST 35 YEARS HAVE INCLUDED HOSPITALITY AND BUSINESS OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT, AND EDUCATIONAL LEADERSHIP, AND INSTRUCTION.
CURRENTLY, I'M IN THE FIELD OF EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION AND TENNIS COACHING.
NEXT SLIDE. WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACHIEVE? TAKE A LOOK.
WE'RE TRYING TO GO FROM THIS TO, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE, THIS.
WE WANT TO COLLABORATE WITH A PARTNER TO DEVELOP AN INDOOR RACKET SPORTS FACILITY THAT WILL ALLOW TENNIS AND THE BENEFITS OF TENNIS TO BE MORE ACCESSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE ON A YEAR ROUND BASIS TO ALL PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY OUR YOUTH.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WHY DOES OUR COMMUNITY NEED PUBLIC INDOOR TENNIS COURTS? BECAUSE THERE ARE NONE.
[LAUGHTER] WAIT. YES, THERE IS THE TETON PINES WITH THREE COURTS, AND ITS CURRENT MEMBERSHIP INITIATION FEE IS $150,000.
THE PINES HAS GENEROUSLY HELPED THE HIGH SCHOOL TEAM OVER THE YEARS, BUT IT CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.
THERE IS COMMUNITY SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE GARNERED THROUGH A SURVEY WITH OVER 100 RESPONDENTS, A PETITION WITH OVER 900 SIGNERS, PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE REGARDING THE STILSON PROPOSED PARK AND REC SPORTS COMPLEX, A LOCAL EMAIL LIST OF OVER 300 PEOPLE, FACILITATING LOCAL PLAY OPPORTUNITIES WITH INCREASING ENGAGEMENT, SUPPORTING PARKS AND REC PROGRAMS WITH A REMARKABLE INCREASE IN OFFERINGS AND PARTICIPATION.
COMMUNITY LEADERS EXPRESSING SUPPORT FOR AN INDOOR TENNIS FACILITY.
THERE IS CLEAR DEMAND FOR YEAR ROUND TENNIS IN OUR COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
WHO WE ARE, WE ARE A 501C3 ORGANIZATION AND STATE NONPROFIT CORPORATION.
COMMUNITY TENNIS SUPPORTERS OF ALL AGES, INCLUDING OUR FOUR-YEAR-OLD WHO HAD TO GO HOME AND PAST AND CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS ARE ALL HERE TONIGHT.
THIS ASSOCIATION WAS FORMED IN 2019 TO PROMOTE LOCAL TENNIS AND CREATE A FACILITY FOR INDOOR PLAY.
HERE'S BRIEFLY WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH OUR PARTNERS TO ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
WE KNOW THAT TCSD ALSO CARES ABOUT AND SUPPORTS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE COLLABORATED WITH PARKS AND REC WITH OVER 400 CHILDREN AND TEENS, RAN, LAUGHED, AND BUILT SELF CONFIDENCE IN YEAR ROUND TENNIS PROGRAMS.
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WE HAVE FACILITATED THE ACQUISITION OF FREE UNITED STATES TENNIS ASSOCIATION EQUIPMENT AND CURRICULUM AT BOTH TCSD AND THE JACKSON HOLE CLASSICAL ACADEMY FOR PHYSICAL EDUCATION PROGRAMMING.MOST RECENTLY, WE ORGANIZE VOLUNTEERS TO HELP PETE HOFFMAN AT JES DELIVER HIS FIRST TENNIS PE SESSIONS.
WE'VE ALSO OBTAINED GRANTS FROM THE UNITED STATES TENNIS ASSOCIATION AND WYOMING TENNIS ASSOCIATION TO SPONSOR TENNIS EVENTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
WE'VE HELPED TO ORGANIZE AND DELIVER PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY FOR HIGH SCHOOL PLAYERS AND TEAMS WITH HIGH PROFILE COACHES, INCLUDING LUKE JENSEN, A US DAVIS CUP AND WORLD TEAM TENNIS PLAYER AND COACH BILL RIDDLE, COACH AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE SOUTHERN.
AND REGIONAL VISITING HIGH SCHOOL COACHES, ONE OF WHOM WAS JACKSON HOLE NATIVE GRILL SMITH, A JACKSON HOLE HIGH SCHOOL AND DIVISION 1 COLLEGE TENNIS PLAYER.
OUR SUPPORT SERVES ALL DEMOGRAPHICS.
FORMER HIGH SCHOOL COACH BRUCE SIMON CREATED A LATINO YOUTH OUTREACH CLINIC THAT PLAYED WEEKLY OVER THE SUMMER.
OVER 80 TEENS PARTICIPATED IN ALL OF THESE EVENTS.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ADULTS OF ALL AGES ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT TENNIS TOO.
WE'VE HELPED ORGANIZE MULTIPLE COMPETITIVE LEAGUES, HOSTED WEEKLY OPEN RECREATIONAL PLAY, AND SUPPORTED OUTREACH TO LATINO ADULTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
TENNIS BENEFITS OUR COMMUNITY.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. YOUTH WHO PLAY TENNIS. FUN FACTS.
DID YOU KNOW THAT PLAYING TENNIS CREATES PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY HEALTHIER YOUTH.
TENNIS HAS LOW BARRIERS TO ENTRY AND IS A GREAT OPTION FOR STUDENTS WHO DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN EXPENSIVE WINTER SPORTS.
THIS PROJECT ALIGNS WITH TCSD GOALS OF SUCCESS FOR ALL IN A SAFE, HEALTHY, AND CARING ENVIRONMENT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
A MAYO CLINIC REPORT ALSO FOUND THAT PEOPLE WHO PLAY TENNIS LIVE 10 YEARS LONGER AND ARE ALSO HEALTHIER AND HAPPIER. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
WHEN WE BUILD INDOOR COURTS, OUR JACKSON HOLE HIGH SCHOOL TENNIS TEAM WILL BE ABLE TO PLAY AND ENJOY MORE TENNIS AND BE BETTER PREPARED TO WIN MORE STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS.
[LAUGHTER] THE FACILITY WILL ALLOW JACKSON TO HOST EVEN MORE TENNIS EVENTS, INCLUDING STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS. NEXT SIDE, PLEASE.
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, OUR KEY STUDY, JOE RICE.
HE IS A COMMUNITY LEADER AND HE SUPPORTS OUR EFFORTS FOR AN INDOOR TENNIS FACILITY.
HE HAS THE EXPERTISE IN BUILDING AND MANAGING SPORTS FACILITIES, HAS SUCCESSFULLY PARTNERED WITH TCSD.
YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE OTHER INPUT. THAT'S OKAY.
HE WILL HELP US TO GET THIS PROJECT COMPLETED.
NEXT SIDE, PLEASE. WHAT IS STOPPING US? FINDING COMMUNITY PARTNERS WITH WHOM TO COLLABORATE.
FINDING THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR THIS FACILITY.
IN OUR QUEST FOR AFFORDABLE INDOOR TENNIS IN TETON COUNTY, WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND HERE TO SHARE SOME OF THAT IS PEG CONNOR.
>> THANK YOU, DIANE. IN ADDITION TO BEING A PROUD TETON COUNTY COMMUNITY TENNIS ASSOCIATION BOARD MEMBER.
I'M ALSO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WYOMING TENNIS ASSOCIATION, ALSO KNOWN AS USTA WYOMING.
USTA IS AN ABBREVIATION FOR THE UNITED STATES TENNIS ASSOCIATION AS DIANE MENTIONED, WHICH IS THE NATIONAL GOVERNING BODY OF TENNIS IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE OWNER OPERATOR OF THE US OPEN TENNIS CHAMPIONSHIPS HELD ANNUALLY IN NEW YORK CITY.
US OPEN IS THE MAJOR FUNDING VEHICLE FOR THE USTA PROVIDING SUPPORT TO ADVANCE THE MISSION OF GROWING TENNIS TO INSPIRE HEALTHIER PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES EVERYWHERE.
AS FOR ME, I'M A 40 YEAR VETERAN OF THE RACKET SPORTS INDUSTRY AND HAVE HELD ROLES IN COLLEGIATE ATHLETICS, PROFESSIONAL EVENT MANAGEMENT, CORPORATE MARKETING, SPORTS MEDIA, AS WELL AS BEING A LIFELONG VOLUNTEER WITH THE USTA.
I AM HERE TODAY BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THE POSITIVE IMPACT THAT TENNIS CAN HAVE FOR THE SOCIAL, MENTAL, AND PHYSICAL HEALTH OF YOUTH, ADULTS, AND FAMILIES.
EVERYONE DESERVES THE GIFT OF TENNIS AND IT IS THIS PHILOSOPHY THAT DRIVES US TOWARDS THE DREAM OF AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE YEAR ROUND TENNIS IN JACKSON. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
WE'VE SOUGHT OUT INDIVIDUALS EXPERTISE IN THE CREATION, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF SUCCESSFUL INDOOR FACILITIES.
WHERE POSSIBLE, WE'VE ADDED THESE FOLKS TO OUR BOARD AND ESTABLISHED WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE OTHERS.
WE'VE OBTAINED SAMPLE BUSINESS MODELS AND FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS.
TRAINING AND CERTIFICATION OF LOCAL COACHES AND MANAGERS IS ALREADY UNDERWAY.
WE HAVE BEGUN FUNDRAISING AND IDENTIFICATION OF ADDITIONAL DONORS.
WE'VE DEVELOPED MENTORING RELATIONSHIPS WITH SIMILAR ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY SUCCESSFULLY ACHIEVED THEIR DREAM.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE ARE KEEPING THE TETON COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THE COMMUNITY NEEDS FRONT AND CENTER IN OUR PLANNING. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
HERE'S AN OVERVIEW OF THE INDOOR FACILITIES ACROSS WYOMING.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY SEVEN INDOOR FACILITIES, COLLECTIVELY CONTAINING 26 COURTS AND SIX COMMUNITIES ACROSS WYOMING.
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SIX OF THE SEVEN FACILITIES ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WITH ACCESSIBLE MEMBERSHIP FEES AND AFFORDABLE PROGRAMMING.I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT TWO FACILITIES.
IN CHEYENNE, TWO INDOOR COURTS ARE LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY OWNED BY A K THROUGH EIGHT CHARTER SCHOOL, AND IN SHERIDAN, A STEEL FABRIC COVERING PURCHASED BY THE SHERIDAN TENNIS ASSOCIATION COVERS TWO COURTS LOCATED ON PARKS AND REC PROPERTY.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. PARTNERSHIPS ARE CRUCIAL TO OUR SUCCESS.
SPECIFICALLY, THE USTA'S VENUE SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS FACILITATED OUR EFFORTS PROVIDING ACCESS TO SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND RESOURCES IN THE AREA OF ADVOCACY, CONCEPT DEVELOPMENT, FACILITY DESIGN, BUSINESS MODELING, AND GRANT FUNDING.
AS WELL, THE USTA HAS HELPED US FORM MENTORING RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER SIMILAR ORGANIZATIONS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
WE'VE CONNECTED WITH LEADERSHIP AT THREE SUCCESSFUL PUBLIC TENNIS FACILITIES IN CIRCUMSTANCES VERY SIMILAR TO OURS.
ALL ARE LOCATED IN COLD WEATHER CLIMATES, OFFER ACCESSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE PROGRAMMING FOR YOUTH AND ADULTS AND WERE CREATED THROUGH PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
CASE STUDY NUMBER 2, THE STEAMBOAT SPRINGS TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL CENTER IS AN INDOOR OUTDOOR PUBLIC FACILITY LOCATED ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.
OPEN SINCE 2012, THE FACILITY WAS CONSTRUCTED WITH FUNDS RAISED BY NON PROFITS, STEAMBOAT TENNIS ASSOCIATION AND COURT SPORTS 4 LIFE, WHICH CURRENTLY OPERATES THE FACILITY.
CASE STUDY NUMBER 2 IS THE FRED WELLS TENNIS AND EDUCATION CENTER LOCATED IN ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA.
IT IS AN INDOOR, OUTDOOR PUBLIC TENNIS FACILITY FORMED IN 2022, AS A RESULT OF A PUBLIC PRIVATE VENTURE LED BY A LOCAL PHILANTHROPIST IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE USTA.
FORMED IN 2017, THE DENVER TENNIS PARK IS LOCATED ON SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY AND IS THE RESULT OF A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER, THE DENVER PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AND PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY.
THESE THREE CASE STUDIES DEMONSTRATE THAT THE CONCEPT OF A PUBLIC TENNIS FACILITY CREATED THROUGH PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IS NOT NEW.
IN FACT, THIS MODEL HAS BEEN REPLICATED SUCCESSFULLY MANY TIMES AND UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES VERY SIMILAR TO JACKSON'S.
I'D NOW LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBER JOE MANNING TO GIVE SOME MORE DETAILS ABOUT POTENTIAL FACILITY LOCATIONS AND STRUCTURES. TAKE IT AWAY, JOE.
>> WE'RE GOING TO MOVE QUICKLY BECAUSE WE GOT 15 MINUTES.
THANK YOU, PEG, FOR SHOWING US HOW THIS PARTNERSHIP CAN BE DONE. NOT THAT QUICKLY.
AS FOR ME, I'VE BEEN A PRESIDENT AND RUN A NON FOR PROFIT TENNIS FACILITY COLOCATED ON PARK DISTRICT PROPERTY.
I WAS A DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION AND PHYSICAL SECURITY, MANAGING OF STAFF OF OVER 90, AND I'M ALSO A RETIRED PROJECT MANAGEMENT PROFESSIONAL AND PROPERTY MANAGER, WHICH MEANS I REALLY SPENT MY CAREER SOLVING COMPLEX PROBLEMS LIKE THIS.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. YOU MIGHT SAY, WHERE ELSE CAN WE BUILD THIS? WELL, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE LOOKED AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES.
NONE OF THEM ARE CURRENTLY FEASIBLE.
WE DO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR FRIENDS AT PARKS AND RECREATION.
IN 2022, THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO SUPPORT INDOOR TENNIS AND WE VIEW THEM AS A PARTNER GOING FORWARD. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
WE WANT YOU. WE VIEW A PARTNERSHIP WITH TCSD AS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO ACHIEVE OUR GOAL OF COMMUNITY INDOOR TENNIS. NEXT SLIDE.
TOGETHER WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE USTA AND DTC, THE DENVER TENNIS CENTER, WE HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND WILLINGNESS TO MAKE THIS PROJECT HAPPEN.
FIRST OFF, TCCTA WILL FUNDRAISE AND PAY FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT AND OPERATIONS AND HAVE A RESERVE LARGE ENOUGH TO REMOVE ANY IMPROVEMENTS WE MADE.
THIS MEANS THAT TCSD WILL HAVE NO FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS PARTNERSHIP.
TOGETHER, WE WILL DESIGN TENNIS PROGRAMS THAT BENEFIT OUR YOUTH, TCSD STUDENTS, AND COMMUNITY WHILE ENSURING THE FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF THIS PARTNERSHIP. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
WE HAVE AND ALREADY IDENTIFIED LOCAL INDIVIDUALS WITH TENNIS EXPERIENCE AND HOUSING TO STAFF THIS PROJECT.
THE APPENDIX CONTAINS ADDITIONAL DETAILS AND DEMONSTRATES HOW THIS PARTNERSHIP WILL WORK.
NOW LET'S LOOK AT SOME STRUCTURES AND LOCATIONS ON TCSD AND HOW THIS COULD HAPPEN. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THE FIRST IS OBVIOUSLY OUR EXISTING HIGH SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY TENNIS COURTS, WHICH WERE BUILT IN 2005 FOR BOTH OUR STUDENTS AND COMMUNITY, PARTIALLY FUNDED BY A US GRANT.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE SECOND OPTION RATHER IS THE NORTH LAWN, AND THE USTA HAS PROVIDED US WITH SOME CONCEPTUAL RENDERINGS ON HOW THIS COULD LOOK.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE FIRST RENDERING THAT WE SEE HERE, CONCEPTUAL IS FOR INDOOR TENNIS COURTS AND SOME OPTIONAL PICKLEBALL COURTS,
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NOT THAT WE ALL LOVE PICKLE BALLS.>> SO WE LOSE OUR PROPOSED STUDENT PARKING?
>> NO. THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM FOR BOTH THE STUDENT PARKING AND THIS COURT SYSTEM.
YOU SEE THE REST OF THAT LAWN THERE.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE ADDITIONAL PARKING ON TCSD PROPERTY.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, CHAIRMAN SCARLETT.
THE SECOND RENDERING SHOWS A FIVE TENNIS COURTS WITH A SEASONAL BUBBLE.
HERE WE WOULD MOVE THE ADDITIONAL YOU WOULD GET THE PARKING BACK BY MOVING THE COURTS TO THIS LOCATION.
YOU WOULD NOT LOSE PARKING AGAIN. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
AGAIN, THESE ARE CONCEPTUAL IDEAS.
WE WILL WORK WITH YOU TO FIND THE RIGHT SETUP FOR THIS.
THE THIRD RENDERING SHOWS FOUR INDOOR COURTS AND FOUR OUTDOOR COURTS, THOUGH WE WOULD BUILD FIVE.
HERE WE'LL LOOK AT SOME STRUCTURE OPTIONS COMING NEXT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
WE HAVE SOME COST ESTIMATES AND PROS AND CONS IN THE APPENDIX FOR EACH OF THESE STRUCTURES.
WORKING CLOCK WISE. THANK YOU.
YOU SEE A SEASONAL INFLATABLE AIR STRUCTURE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE AT THE PINES TODAY.
THE NEXT ONE IS A FABRIC OVER STEEL STRUCTURE, WHICH IS THE SHERIDAN FACILITY THAT ALREADY CURRENTLY EXISTS.
THE NEXT STRUCTURE ON THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER THERE IS A PRE FABRICATED STEEL BUILDING.
FINALLY, YOU HAVE OUTDOOR COURTS ON TOP OF AN INDOOR FACILITY, VERY INNOVATIVE DESIGN, VERY BEAUTIFUL, VERY EXPENSIVE AND SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER.
WORKING TOGETHER AGAIN, WE WILL SELECT THE RIGHT OPTION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
HERE, WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW EACH OPTION IN SOME ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS LIKE COST AND TIME TO HELP US MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. NEXT SLIDE.
AFTER REVIEWING ALL THE INFORMATION, WE RECOMMEND COVERING THE EXISTING TENNIS COURTS WITH A SEASONAL INFLATABLE AIR STRUCTURE. NEXT SLIDE.
WHY? WELL, THAT'S THE LOWEST COST, QUICKEST TO DELIVER, NO NEW LAND REQUIRED, NO LOSS OF OUR BEAUTIFUL TENNIS COURTS. NEXT SLIDE.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE A PROVEN CONTRACTOR WHO HAS BUILT A BUBBLE IN JACKSON ALREADY.
WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS LOCATION HAS SLIGHTLY ELEVATED SECURITY RISKS OVER THE NORTH LAWN.
WE BELIEVE THAT WORKING TOGETHER, WE CAN SUBSTANTIALLY MITIGATE THOSE RISKS.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OUR ASK THIS EVENING IS SIMPLE.
PLEASE, PARTNER WITH US TO DEVELOP AN INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY TO ALLOW TENNIS AND THE BENEFITS OF TENNIS TO BE MORE ACCESSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE ON A YEAR ROUND BASIS TO OUR CHILDREN AND THE JACKSON COMMUNITY.
NEXT SLIDE. ON BEHALF OF THE TETON COUNTY COMMUNITY TENNIS ASSOCIATION, OUR CHILDREN, AND THE COMMUNITY OF JACKSON.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO PRESENT THIS EVENING.
>> BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T THINK HE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
>> MR. CAST. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS REALLY, REALLY INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION.
I'M JUST HERE TO TELL YOU THAT WE'VE HAD OTHER GROUPS COME IN WITHOUT NEAR THE RESEARCH OR THE FUNDING MECHANISM TO USE OUR LAND FOR VARIOUS THINGS.
WE REALLY REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMING.
BEFORE WE GET THE LAST ITEMS, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
>> [INAUDIBLE] COME BACK TO ORDER.
[E. Action Items]
WE'LL START WITH ACTION ITEM NUMBER ONE.CONSIDERATION OF THE CIGNA HEALTH INSURANCE RENEWAL FOR FISCAL YEAR 25.
WE HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS. IT'S ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL JUST SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS FOR KRISTA BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER TO PUBLIC COMMENT OR FOR SUPERINTENDENT CHAPMAN.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PROPOSALS? KEITH GINGERY. YES.
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>> WELL, SO WHICH ONE IS THE RECOMMENDATION? IT LOOKED LIKE TWO AND FOUR COST THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.
WAS I READING THAT CORRECTLY, EARLIER?
>> TWO AND FOUR SHOULD NOT COST THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.
>> THERE'S ABOUT A $75,000 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TWO AND FOUR.
TWO IS THE ONE I GOT THIS RIGHT WITH THE GUARDIAN STILL PROVIDING DENTAL VISION, AND THEN 75,000 LESS IS CIGNA FOR EVERYTHING WITH A BIGGER LIST OF DENTAL AND VISION.
>> THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TWO AND FOUR, THEY'RE BOTH HIGH DEDUCTIBLE ONLY.
TWO IS GUARDIAN FOR DENTAL AND VISION, FOUR IS CIGNA FOR DENTAL AND VISION.
ONE AND THREE ARE CONTINUING TO OFFER ALL FOUR PLANS.
THE COST IS MUCH HIGHER AND WOULD IMPACT THE ABILITY OF THE BOARD TO THEN APPROVE AN INCREASE IN THE RCA.
>> YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOUR. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> FROM A FISCAL MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT, YES.
>> BY SWITCHING TO CIGNA FOR THE VISION AND DENTAL, IT'LL BE CHEAPER, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, PEOPLE WILL HAVE MORE ACCESS TO MORE PROVIDERS.
IT'S A WIN-WIN. IT'S CHEAPER PLUS MORE ACCESS.
>> THERE ARE MORE PROVIDERS FOR VISION AND DENTAL IN TETON COUNTY UNDER CIGNA.
THAT BEING SAID, THE ONE DENTAL PROVIDER THAT EVERYBODY HAS SWITCHED TO UNDER GUARDIAN IS NOT ONE OF THOSE PROVIDERS, OF COURSE.
[LAUGHTER] CURRENTLY, GUARDIAN FOR DENTAL PAYS 90% OF THE USUAL AND CUSTOMARY CHARGE FOR FOR OUT OF NETWORK DENTISTS.
ELKRIDGE DENTAL IS THE OFFICE THAT IS COVERED UNDER GUARDIAN.
THEY WILL ACTUALLY MAKE MORE MONEY BY US MAKING THIS CHANGE BECAUSE THEY'LL GET 95% OF THE USUAL AND CUSTOMARY RATE FOR DENTIST APPOINTMENTS IN TETON COUNTY.
>> UNDER PROPOSAL 4, YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND DOWN THAT FUND THAT I THINK TRUSTEE MEAD'S BEEN POINTING OUT TO US FOR YEARS NOW THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE, AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE GETTING DOWN TO THE 8.1.
NOW, THE FUNDING SOURCE AND THE WAY THAT WE FUND WHATEVER THE BOARD DECIDES ON TONIGHT, WE CAN TWEAK THAT OVER THE NEXT MONTH WHEN WE VOTE ON THE COMPENSATION PACKAGE IN MAY OR WE CAN VOTE ON IT IN JUNE.
IT JUST DELAYS THEN THE FINAL BUDGET PREPARATION BECAUSE THIS IS 87% OF OUR BUDGET.
THAT BEING SAID, YOU COULD DO HALF A MILLION FROM THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FUND NEXT YEAR, AND THEN THE GENERAL FUND COST WOULD BE 8.6 MILLION, WHICH WOULD THEN MEAN YOU COULD GO TO 171% RCA INSTEAD OF 174% RCA.
THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT I CAN BRING TO YOU IN THE NEXT MONTH OR OVER THE NEXT MONTH, AND THEN THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR WHICHEVER PROPOSAL YOU DECIDE ON CAN THEN BE DECIDED IN THE COMPENSATION PACKAGE DECISION IN MAY OR JUNE.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KRISTEN OR SUPERINTENDENT CHAPMAN?
>> THANK YOU. WE WILL OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE EMPLOYEE HEALTH BENEFIT PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025.
>> WE HAVE ALI DILLON. [INAUDIBLE]
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU, TRUSTEES FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE TO TCSD STUDENTS, EDUCATORS, AND ALL FACULTY MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM.
I AM A COMMITTED MEMBER OF THE TCSD TEAM IN MY 14TH FULL TIME YEAR, HAVING SERVED IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES ACROSS SIX OF OUR 10 SCHOOL CAMPUSES.
I BRING FORTH CONCERNS TONIGHT REGARDING THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO EMPLOYEE HEALTHCARE COVERAGE.
THE IMPLICATIONS OF THESE ADJUSTMENTS, PARTICULARLY THE SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN OUT OF
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POCKET EXPENSES COMBINED WITH THE STAGNANT NATURE OF OUR SALARIES, WEIGH HEAVILY ON THE MINDS OF OUR FACULTY MEMBERS.FOR INSTANCE, THE PROPOSED CHANGES WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY ESCALATE MY HEALTHCARE COSTS UNDER MY CURRENT COVERAGE PLAN, LEADING TO A CONSIDERABLE FINANCIAL STRAIN, MADE EVEN MORE CHALLENGING IN LIGHT OF THE CURRENT ECONOMIC LANDSCAPE MARKED BY HIGH HOUSING COSTS INFLATION AND FINANCIAL UNCERTAINTY.
BY THE WAY, MY OUT OF POCKET COSTS WOULD INCREASE TO ME FROM CURRENTLY ZERO DOLLARS TO MORE THAN $3,100 FOR THE SAME COVERAGE.
THAT'S A SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN 6% INCREASE IN THE BID FROM CIGNA, AS WELL AS THE REGIONAL INFLATION RATE OF 5-6%.
IN COMPARISON TO 2022, I HAD A COVERAGE THAT WAS BETTER THAN WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW.
IT COSTS ME ABOUT $1,700 OUT OF POCKET THAT YEAR COMPARED TO WHAT WILL BE 5,200 IN THIS PROPOSAL, WHICH IS A MORE THAN 300% INCREASE.
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT MY FINANCIAL AND PHYSICAL WELL BEING, AS WELL AS THAT OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS AND COLLEAGUES, ESPECIALLY THOSE IN VITAL CLASSIFIED ROLES SUPPORTING OUR STUDENTS.
WHILE NONE OF US ENTER THIS PROFESSION EXPECTING WEALTH, JOB SATISFACTION ALONE CANNOT MEET OUR FINANCIAL NEEDS.
WE RELY ON A ROBUST BENEFITS PACKAGE.
I HOPE THE BOARD CONSIDERS BIDS FROM VARIOUS PROVIDERS ALONG WITH STAFF INPUT TO PRIORITIZE WELL BEING OVER SIMPLY SELECTING THE LOWEST BID.
THIS APPROACH WILL HELP RETAIN AND ATTRACT THE BEST FACULTY MEMBERS FOR TCSD.
I WANT TO ALSO SHARE THAT THERE'S A SENTIMENT OF DISAPPOINTMENT AMONG FACULTY MEMBERS IN REGARDS TO THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN THIS HEALTH CARE DECISION MAKING PROCESS, WHICH IS LIKELY WHY THERE ARE NOT WRITTEN COMMENTS TO THE BOARD ON THIS ACT.
WE HOPE TO HAVE CLARITY AND OPENNESS ON MATTERS AFFECTING OUR FINANCIAL SECURITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
RECENT MEETINGS OF THE STAFF HEALTH INSURANCE COMMITTEE AND A SURVEY GATHERING INPUT ABOUT OUR NEW CIGNA COVERAGE THAT WERE DISCUSSED EARLIER HAVE NOT RESULTED IN INFORMATION SHARING WITH STAFF.
I HOPE THAT SUCH DATA IN ADDITION TO COMPETING BIDS HAS BEEN SHARED WITH YOU IN ORDER TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS IMPACTING EMPLOYEE WELL BEING.
TO THAT END, I PROPOSE THAT THIS BOARD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FACULTY INPUT, PERHAPS IN A SPECIAL MEETING AS PROPOSED BY TRUSTEE GINGERY, EXPLORE OUR ALTERNATIVE HEALTH INSURANCE SOLUTIONS THAT PRIORITIZE EMPLOYEE WELL BEING, AND OFFER A BROAD RANGE OF COVERAGE OPTIONS THAT DO NOT PUT THE FINANCIAL BURDEN ON EMPLOYEES AND GO BEYOND A SINGLE HSA PLAN OF $5,000 DEDUCTIBLE ON PROPOSALS 2 AND 4 THAT WAS NOT PRESENTED TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE.
EMPOWERING FACULTY WITH CHOICE ENHANCES MORALE AND PRODUCTIVITY.
THE FOUR OPTIONS PRESENTED HERE TONIGHT AMPLIFY THE FINANCIAL BURDENS FACED BY MANY EDUCATORS, CASTING A SHADOW OVER OUR MORALE AND OVERALL JOB SATISFACTION.
AS STEWARDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, I IMPLORE YOU TO PRIORITIZE THE WELFARE OF ALL TCSD FACULTY MEMBERS BY ADVOCATING FOR ADDITIONAL HEALTHCARE OPTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION OF THIS MATTER.
>> THE NEXT PERSON WITH A COMMENT IS MICHELLE ROOKS, SUPERINTENDENT.
>> HELLO, EVERYONE. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> HELLO, EVERYONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT.
>> MICHELLE, CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF?
[OVERLAPPING] I'VE BEEN IN THE DISTRICT SINCE THE YEAR 2002, AND WORKING AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
I'M ALSO MEMBER OF THE TCA, AND AS MY FIRST POINT, THE TCA IS CONTINUING TO PROMISE OUR COLLABORATION.
PLEASE CONSIDER AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
IF WE HAD KNOWN THERE WAS ONLY FIVE PEOPLE WHO WERE ON THE COMMITTEE, WE WOULD HAVE RALLIED.
OUR LAST SURVEY THAT WE SHARED WITH DOCTOR CHAPMAN SHOWED 27 INTERESTED MEMBERS BEING ON THE COMMITTEE.
I'M NOT SURE IF THE TIMING DIDN'T WORK OUT FOR THEM, BUT IN THE FUTURE, IF THERE'S LOW COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP, IF WE COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER, WE WILL WORK TO GET MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED.
MY SECOND POINT IS BASED ON WHAT WAS PUBLISHED ON THE BOARD DOCUMENTS, WE CREATED A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE INSURANCE PACKAGES FROM LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR, BUT WE DIDN'T FOCUS ONLY ON THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLANS.
I THINK GIVING PEOPLE TIME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE PROPOSED RAISES AND STEPS, WHICH THANK YOU FOR THOSE PROPOSALS, IT WOULD HELP US TO UNDERSTAND MORE WHAT LIES AHEAD.
THIS SHIFT IS HUGE FOR FAMILIES, ESPECIALLY THOSE FAMILIES WHO EXPERIENCE WORST YEARS EVERY YEAR DUE TO CHRONIC ILLNESSES AND PRESCRIPTION NEEDS.
I WOULD ECHO WHAT ALI PROPOSED.
PLEASE GIVE US A MOMENT TO PROCESS.
TRUSTEE GINGERY MENTIONED A SECOND MEETING TO VOTE ON INSURANCE THIS MONTH.
I THINK THAT'S FAIR TO GIVE STAFF TIME TO DO THE MATH,
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TO ASK QUESTIONS, TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK, TO PROVIDE THEIR NUMBERS.IT'S GOOD TO HEAR OTHER PEOPLE'S NUMBERS AND THEIR EXPERIENCES.
TCA CAN WORK TO GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION.
WE CAN SURVEY OUR MEMBERS, WE CAN HELP THEM DO THE MATH, AND WE CAN GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FROM ALL OF US.
THIS HELPS TEACHERS HAVE TIME, IT HELPS THEM TO HAVE A VOICE, AND IT HELPS THEM TO CREATE MORE BUY IN. THANK YOU.
>> ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENT ONLINE? SOMEBODY JUST.
>> [INAUDIBLE] I WAS CONFUSED.
I MIGHT GO OVER A MINUTE IF I MAY, BUT PLEASE ALLOW TO INDULGE ME WITH THAT IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. I'M STAN MORGAN.
I'M THE SIXTH GRADE [INAUDIBLE] HISTORY TEACHER AT JACKSONVILLE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE TCA.
I WANT TO START BY THANKING THE BOARD SINCERELY FOR YOUR SERVICE.
[NOISE] SOME OF YOU GUYS STOLE MY THUNDER A LITTLE BIT.
KRISTEN WAS BRINGING OUT PACKETS WITH QUOTES FROM AMY BITTNER.
TRUSTEE SCARLET WAS TALKING ABOUT INCREASING THE RCA, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT, INFLATION AND SOME OTHER THINGS.
YOU GOT TO LOVE LIVING IN WYOMING.
I WAS TRYING TO RESEARCH SOME INFORMATION.
I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR INFORMATION FROM AMY BITTNER, ONE OF OUR PRINCIPAL ECONOMIST.
I'M TRYING TO DO A GOOGLE SEARCH AND SURE ENOUGH, HER PHONE NUMBER POPS UP.
[LAUGHTER] I DON'T THINK THAT HAPPENS IN CALIFORNIA OR MANY STATES AT ALL.
IT'S REALLY GREAT TO LIVE IN WYOMING WHERE PEOPLE, EVEN THE PRINCIPAL ECONOMIST OF THE STATE ANSWERS THE TELEPHONE.
I WAS CALLING MS. BITTNER FOR A VERY SPECIFIC NUMBER AND SHE GAVE IT TO ME.
SHE GAVE ME THE NUMBER 25%, 25% IS THE NUMBER FOR THE CUMULATIVE INFLATION IN NORTHWEST WYOMING, OUR REGION, FROM THE SECOND QUARTER OF 2020 TO THE SECOND QUARTER OF 2023.
25%, I KNOW THAT PROBABLY NOBODY HERE IS SUPER SURPRISED BY THAT.
WE ALL FEEL THAT IT IN [INAUDIBLE] OR PROPERTY TAXES, AND EVERYTHING.
BUT WHAT THAT NUMBER REPRESENTS? SAME CART OF GROCERIES THAT WOULD COST YOU $100 FOUR YEARS AGO, LAST YEAR, THIS TIME WOULD HAVE COST YOU $125.
WE ALL FEEL THAT. WHEREVER WE'RE AT IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE CAN ALL FEEL THAT 25% OF CUMULATIVE INFLATION.
NOW, WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT TO THE STAFF RAISES TO TCSD HAS EXPERIENCED, THIS IS PROBLEMATIC. DON'T GET ME WRONG.
I DO NOT MEAN TO APPEAR UNGRATEFUL TO PAST RAISES, BUT RECOGNIZE FOUR OF THE LAST FIVE STAFF RAISES HAVE BEEN STEP RAISES.
WHEN YOU HAVE SIX OR 8% INFLATION, WE'RE LOSING MONEY.
THE AGGREGATE OF THOSE THREE YEARS THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT, WITH THE 25% CUMULATIVE INFLATION, THE AGGREGATE RAISES FOR TCSD STAFF WAS ABOUT 8%.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROBLEM HERE, 25% INFLATION, 8% RAISES.
[NOISE] WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? DOESN'T TAKE AMY BITTNER, WYOMING ECONOMIST TELL US THAT OUR SALARIES ARE NOT KEEPING UP WITH INFLATION IN TCSD.
I THINK WE'RE ALL AWARE, BUT I DO WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS AND PLEASE REALIZE I WROTE THIS SPEECH BEFORE, WHAT I THINK THE BOARD IS MOVING TO SOME POSITIVE DIRECTIONS ON THIS AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT.
IF I MIGHT JUST HAVE YOU CONSIDER THIS.
WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME OF THE EFFECTS OF THIS.
IF YOU TALK TO YOUR PRINCIPALS, YOU TALK TO HUMAN RESOURCES, [NOISE] PEOPLE ARE CONSIDERING OTHER THINGS.
I'M NOT HERE TO SAY THE SKY IS FALLING AND THAT WE'RE ALL DOOMED.
BUT REALIZE THE MARGIN FOR BEING AN EMPLOYEE OF TCSD AND MAKING IT IN TETON COUNTY OR A SURROUNDING AREA HAS ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE BIT THIN.
IT HAS GOTTEN MUCH THINNER OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS SINCE COVID, MUCH THINNER.
COMPOUNDING PROBLEM THIS YEAR, THIS IS BEFORE THE RECENT NEW SUGGESTIONS BUT COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM THIS YEAR IS THE STAFF WILL BE NOW ASKED TO CONTRIBUTE MORE TO OUR HEALTHCARE BENEFITS.
WE ARE LOSING TEACHERS AND GOOD TEACHERS IN TETON COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
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PEOPLE AREN'T LEAVING THE AREA, THEY'RE LEAVING TCSD.OTHERS ARE CONSIDERING CAREERS THAT ARE MORE LUCRATIVE WHERE THEY CAN EARN MORE MONEY TO TRY AND FIGHT THE INFLATION.
COMMUTERS ARE QUESTIONING WHETHER THE COMMUTE IS STILL WORTH IT.
I'M HEARING PEOPLE SAYING THAT THEY CAN GET BETTER BENEFITS IN NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS.
SOME OF THEM THINK THAT WORKING CONDITIONS LIKE THE FOUR DAY WORK WEEK MIGHT BE A BETTER CONDITION FOR THEM.
SOME ARE LOOKING AT THE PAY IN NEIGHBORING STATES AND SAYING THAT PAY IS EQUAL, AND THE COST OF LIVING IS LOWER.
I DO THINK IN THIS ROOM, WE ARE ALL DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH THE SITUATION WE HAVE AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AND I WANT TO REALLY EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION FOR THAT.
BUT I DO WANT YOU TO BE ACUTELY AWARE OF THE FINANCIAL REALITIES THAT OUR TCSD STAFF ARE FACING.
HISTORICALLY HIGH INFLATION, THE HIGHEST AND PROBABLY EVERYBODY IN HERE'S ADULT LIFE.
NUMBER 2, RELATIVELY STAGNANT WAGE INCREASES AND THEN NUMBER 3, THIS YEAR MAYBE POSSIBLY MORE CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR HEALTHCARE.
OUR TCSD STAFF IS MAKING LESS MONEY IN REAL DOLLARS TODAY THAN WE WERE FOUR YEARS AGO.
NOW I CAN SEE SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS START AND ORIGINATE IN CHEYENNE.
I BELIEVE HERE IN THIS ROOM, WE'RE CAPABLE OF FINDING SOME LOCAL SOLUTIONS TO THESE PROBLEMS. I THINK WE'RE ON THE WAY WITH THAT ALREADY.
TCA HAS BEEN VERY ENCOURAGED BY COLLABORATION WITH SUPERINTENDENT CHAPMAN THIS YEAR.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO COLLABORATING WITH THE BOARD AND THE REST OF THE ADMINISTRATION TO TRY AND SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS LOCALLY.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE BY SAYING THAT TCA, WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO SUPPORT OUR STAFF, BOTH CERTIFIED AND CLASSIFIED, OUR ULTIMATE GOAL, OF COURSE, IS TO BE SUPPORTED SO WE CAN REALLY SUPPORT THE MOST IMPORTANT STAKEHOLDER OF ALL, OUR TCSD STUDENTS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA TIME.
IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
>> ANY OTHER ONLINE? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?
>> HI, AMANDA. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
>> HI. MY NAME IS AMANDA TURNER.
I THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIRMAN SCARLET AND THE BOARD.
I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THIS IS MY 20TH YEAR WITH TETON COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND I ALSO FEEL LIKE I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT BEING A CANCER SURVIVOR.
LAST YEAR, I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH A VERY AGGRESSIVE FORM OF LYMPHOMA AND WAS HOSPITALIZED IN SALT LAKE WHERE I HAD TO MOVE AND TAKE A HIATUS FROM TEACHING.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I FELT SO VALUED AND SO SUPPORTED BY THE DISTRICT DURING MY ILLNESS.
THEY WERE WONDERFUL AND HAD A REALLY POSITIVE EXPERIENCE AND COULDN'T SAY ENOUGH NICE THINGS.
I DO FEEL LIKE IT WAS TRULY A BRIGHT SPOT DURING MY CANCER TREATMENT TO KNOW THAT I HAD THAT SUPPORT AND THAT I WAS TOLD THAT I WAS A VALUED EMPLOYEE WITH PEOPLE HELPING ME TO COME BACK AS SOON AS I FELT WILLING.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I DON'T FEEL VERY VALUED RIGHT NOW.
THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION ABOUT THIS INSURANCE CHANGE HAS BEEN REALLY CONFUSING TO ME.
THE ONLY WAY I FOUND OUT WAS THROUGH TCA AND THEN UPON DOING A LITTLE DIGGING THROUGH THE BOARD DOCS.
I TRIED TO MAKE PEOPLE KNOWN ABOUT IT IN MY SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS LOW PARTICIPATION IN THE STEERING COMMITTEE, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
I THINK AS SOMEONE SAID EARLIER, HAD THERE BEEN MORE TRANSPARENCY ABOUT NEEDS FOR THAT, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE JUMPED IN.
I ALSO DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE DECISIONS WERE PRIOR TO THIS BOARD MEETING.
ONE MORE THING, I KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BAD YEAR.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BAD YEARS. I'M IN REMISSION.
I WORK WITH ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT SPECIALISTS BECAUSE I HAVE SO MANY LINGERING ISSUES STILL FROM MY CANCER, EVEN THOUGH I AM IN REMISSION.
TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF NUMBERS.
IF WE DO NOT DO A RAISE, MY RAISE NEXT YEAR WILL BE 108 DOLLARS MORE A MONTH, 1,300 DOLLARS MORE A YEAR.
I WILL BE PAYING 4,789 DOLLARS MORE IN INSURANCE.
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THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE 1,300 DOLLAR RAISE AND 4,790 BASICALLY IN INSURANCE COSTS.THAT WOULD BE IF I DID A TRADITIONAL PLAN, WHICH IS HONESTLY, WHAT I HAVE TO DO WITH MY LEVEL OF CARE THAT I NEED, AS WELL AS SOME FAMILY MEMBERS.
I WILL BE MAKING 3,489 DOLLARS LESS THAN I DID LAST YEAR.
I JUST WANTED GIVE YOU GUYS SOME HARD NUMBERS FROM SOMEBODY WHO IS IN REMISSION AND WELL, BUT DOES HAVE A CHRONIC ILLNESS AND WHAT IT MEANS TO GO TO A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH PLAN AND NOW BE 15,000 DOLLARS OUT A YEAR BECAUSE I WILL MAKE THAT DEDUCTIBLE EVERY YEAR FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE WITH THE NUMBER OF SPECIALISTS AND THE HEALTH CONCERNS I HAVE.
I DON'T KNOW. I MIGHT HAVE RUN OVER TIME. I'M SORRY.
>> YOU'RE FINE. THANK YOU, AMANDA.
IS THERE ANYBODY ON ZOOM? I'M GOING TO CLOSE ZOOM, SO WE JUST DEAL WITH PEOPLE IN THE ROOM NOW.
I'M CHERYLYN DOMER, AND I HAVE TAUGHT IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR 14 YEARS.
I TEACH SECOND GRADE OVER AT JACKSON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
I REALLY WANT TO SINCERELY THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE AND FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE STAFF, FOR THE FACULTY, AND ESPECIALLY THE STUDENTS.
ALL MY COLLEAGUES SHARE THAT SAME SENTIMENT, SO I REALLY WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT FROM THE BEGINNING.
YOU KNOW THAT A LOT HAS HAPPENED AT THIS MEETING.
I HAD SOMETHING PREPARED BUT THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT MY FELLOW EDUCATORS HAVE SAID TONIGHT ABOUT THE COST OF INSURANCE.
WHILE I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND A LOT OF FINANCIAL LANGUAGE OR INSURANCE LANGUAGE BECAUSE I DON'T WORK IN THOSE FIELDS, I DO UNDERSTAND THE STRUGGLES THAT FAMILIES ARE HAVING IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I'M JUST GOING TO SKIP TO JUST AN EASY ANALYSIS, JUST THIS KIND OF SIMPLE ANALYSIS THAT I WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT.
TWO THINGS. ONE, IF WE GO TO A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE ONLY, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT CAN ACCRUE IN AN ACCOUNT WILL NOT EVEN TOUCH TO PAY FOR THE PRESCRIPTIONS FOR PEOPLE IN THIS DISTRICT THAT HAVE TO HAVE PRESCRIPTIONS AND FOR OUR CHILDREN THAT HAVE TO HAVE PRESCRIPTIONS.
A LOT OF THOSE TYPES OF PRESCRIPTIONS ARE ITEMIZED IN THE REPORT THAT IS IN BOARD DOCS FROM THE INSURANCE COMPANY.
YOU CAN SEE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE DEPEND ON THAT.
IT'S NOT FOR BIG EMERGENCY YEARS, IT'S FOR MAINTAINING OUR PHYSICAL AND OUR MENTAL WELL BEING.
THAT IS WHAT HELPS US BE THE HIGHLY EFFECTIVE, HIGHLY QUALIFIED EDUCATORS THAT ARE IN THIS DISTRICT.
WE HAVE WORLD CLASS TEACHERS IN THIS DISTRICT, AND I THINK THAT REALLY CAME THROUGH WHEN ED SERVICES WAS SHARING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A BOX CURRICULUM.
WE HAVE THESE RIGOROUS STANDARDS, AND WE HAVE EXPERTISE AND PROFESSIONALS IN THIS DISTRICT THAT KNOW HOW TO MAKE STUDENTS RISE TO THE OCCASION TO LEARN THOSE STANDARDS.
IT'S BECAUSE OF THE TEACHERS IN THIS DISTRICT.
IF A TEACHER, AND THIS ISN'T ME, THIS IS I JUST TOOK MAYBE THE MIDDLE OF THE SALARY SCALE.
A TEACHER WITH A BACHELOR'S DEGREE ON STEP 10 WOULD MAKE 78,000 DOLLARS A YEAR.
THE GROSS PAY FOR THAT TEACHER WITH AN AVERAGE OF 20 PERCENT TAX RATE WOULD BRING HOME A GROSS PAY OF 5,200 DOLLARS A MONTH.
IF THEY WERE TO PAY FOR THE FAMILY INSURANCE IS 587 DOLLARS, I KNOW IF WE GO TO A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE, THEY COULD PUT SOME OF THAT MONEY DEPENDING ON THEIR AGE, PUT IT IN THERE, BUT THAT STILL DOESN'T FEAR IN THE COST OF PRESCRIPTIONS, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST COST MOST PEOPLE THAT USE INSURANCE ON A REGULAR BASIS BENEFIT FROM.
IF THAT EMPLOYEE THEN PAYS FOR THE INSURANCE, THAT LEAVES HIM WITH AN INCOME OF 4,613 DOLLARS.
AFTER PAYING THE AVERAGE RENT, MINE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE ECONOMIST SAID, BUT NOT BY MUCH.
IT'S 4,000 DOLLARS, WHICH MIGHT BE MORE ACCURATE.
THAT LEAVES THAT EMPLOYEE 538 DOLLARS A MONTH FOR THEIR FAMILY.
THAT'S A TEACHER WITH A BACHELOR'S DEGREE PLUS 60 CREDITS AT STEP 10, WHICH I'VE BEEN HERE 14 YEARS AND I'M ONLY AT STEP 9.
I'M IN A DIFFERENT SALARY LANE, BY THE WAY.
GROSS PAY 5,200 DOLLARS A MONTH, PAY FOR THE INSURANCE BECAUSE TRADITIONAL IS
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MUCH BETTER EVEN IF YOU HAVE CATASTROPHIC EVENTS, OR IF YOU'RE JUST SOMEBODY WHO'S HUMAN AND DEALING WITH A MENTAL OR PHYSICAL ILLNESS.THAT LEAVES THAT EMPLOYEE WITH 538 DOLLARS A MONTH.
I DON'T HAVE LOTS OF FANCY NUMBERS, BUT THIS IS THE REALITY OF PEOPLE WORKING IN OUR DISTRICT.
THERE'S A LOT OF SMART PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, AND I THINK WE ALL PUT STUDENTS FIRST, AND I'M JUST HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR ALL THE STAFF MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT WORK DIRECTLY WITH KIDS.
WE'RE HERE FOR KIDS AND HOW HEALTHY WE ARE OR AREN'T IS GOING TO AFFECT THEM.
IF I CAN'T TAKE CARE OF MY MENTAL WELL BEING AND MY PHYSICAL WELL BEING, I AM NOT GOING TO BE A VERY GOOD TEACHER BECAUSE IF I DON'T GET MY MEDICATIONS, I'M NOT A HEALTHY PERSON.
IT'S A REAL QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.
I'M GLAD IT'S NOT ME THAT HAS TO MAKE THE DECISION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU GUYS.
>> THANK YOU. I'M LOOKING OVER ALL OF THE PRESCRIPTIONS, SO I BETTER UNDERSTAND.
>> JUST TO KNOW THE PRESCRIPTIONS.
MOST OF THE PRESCRIPTION USE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, SINGLE DIGITS.
THEN YOU GET INTO SOME DOUBLE DIGITS.
I THINK BIRTH CONTROL WAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST ONES.
WELL, THAT'S A ONE OFF VACCINE.
THERE ARE 154. THE HIGHEST PRESCRIPTION USE THERE IS FOR ANTIDEPRESSANTS.
THERE ARE OTHER THINGS ON THERE THAT ARE CATEGORIZED AS ANTI-SEIZURE MEDICATIONS AND OTHER MEDICATIONS THAT THE SECOND TIER USE FOR SOME OF THOSE MEDICATIONS ARE ALSO TO TREAT MENTAL HEALTH.
>> YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ANALYTICS.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PLAN IT COSTS.
MAYBE CHRIS AND YOU CAN EXPLAIN THE PHARMACY BENEFITS TO ASSUME THE DIFFERENCE. PLEASE, COME UP.
>> THERE IS A DIFFERENCE TO PHARMACY BENEFITS BETWEEN THE TRADITIONAL OR THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLANS FOR THE TRADITIONAL PLANS.
I THINK THAT THIS IS WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE TRADITIONAL PLANS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL PRESCRIPTION CARD.
WHEN YOU GO TO THE PHARMACY TO GET A PRESCRIPTION, IT MAY BE A HIGH DOLLAR PRESCRIPTION.
LET'S SAY YOU HAVE $1,000 A MONTH PRESCRIPTION.
RIGHT NOW, IF CIGNA COVERS THAT, YOU MIGHT PAY $25 AT THE PHARMACY FOR THAT $1,000 PRESCRIPTION, BUT NEITHER THE $1,000 NOR THE $25 GOES TOWARDS YOUR DEDUCTIBLE OR YOUR MAXIMUM OUT OF POCKET FOR YOUR TRADITIONAL INSURANCE.
YOU COULD BE ON THAT PRESCRIPTION FOR A YEAR AND NEVER TOUCH YOUR DEDUCTIBLE OR YOUR TOTAL YOUR MAXIMUM OUT OF POCKET.
YOU'RE STILL AT RISK IF YOU HAVE A SURGERY OR AN MRI OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THE TRADITIONAL PLAN.
THAT IS ONE FEATURE OF THE TRADITIONAL PLAN THAT IS NICE FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THOSE HIGH COST PRESCRIPTIONS.
I WENT THROUGH THIS WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS A HIGH DOLLAR PRESCRIPTION, WHO IS CURRENTLY ON THE TRADITIONAL PLAN.
BEFORE WE EVEN HAVE THESE OPTIONS OUT HERE, THEY WERE CONSIDERING GOING TO A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN.
THEIR PRESCRIPTION COSTS $10,000 A MONTH.
IN JANUARY, FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL, THEY WOULD MEET THEIR TOTAL OUT OF POCKET OF $6,500 IN JANUARY, AND THEN FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, THEY WOULD HAVE NO COST.
WHEN YOU PAY FOR PRESCRIPTIONS ON YOUR HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN, THEY PUT TOWARDS YOUR DEDUCTIBLE AND TOWARDS YOUR MAXIMUM OUT OF POCKET.
WHEN YOU PAY FOR PRESCRIPTIONS ON THE TRADITIONAL PLAN, THERE IS A PRESCRIPTION CARD, BUT NONE OF THOSE COSTS GO TOWARDS YOUR DEDUCTIBLE OR YOUR TOTAL OUT OF POCKET.
IT'S A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO THOSE TWO PLANS.
LIKE WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, IT'S WORST CASE SCENARIO.
THERE ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE A WORST CASE SCENARIO EVERY YEAR, ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAVE TWO PEOPLE IN THEIR FAMILY THAT HAVE HIGH HEALTH CARE COSTS.
THEY'LL EXPERIENCE THE SAME OUT OF POCKET IF THEY HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO MAX OUT THEIR PLAN EVERY YEAR.
EVEN WITH FOUR OPTIONS, THOSE COSTS WILL BE THE SAME ON A TRADITIONAL PLAN AS THEY ARE ON THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN, BECAUSE YOU'RE TOLD OUT OF POCKET PLUS THE PREMIUMS YOU PAY.
FOR EXAMPLE, ON A TRADITIONAL PLAN, IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY INSURANCE, YOU'RE GOING TO PAY $8,000 IN PREMIUMS A YEAR.
YOU'RE GOING TO PAY ANOTHER $5,000 IN TOTAL OUT OF POCKET.
IT GETS YOU TO 13,000 WITH TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE MAXING OUT THEIR INSURANCE.
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SAME COST WITH HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN IN NETWORK.IF YOU TAKE THAT $8,000 THAT YOU'RE PAYING IN PREMIUMS FOR THE TRADITIONAL PLAN, AND YOU PUT THAT INTO YOUR HSA PLUS $173.
I THINK IT'S LIKE ANOTHER $300 OR SOMETHING.
PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT.
>> NINETEEN HUNDRED. IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY HSA, YOU'D MAX IT OUT.
THE MAXIMUM CONTRIBUTION IS 8,250 A MONTH OR A YEAR.
BUT BASICALLY, YOU'D MAX OUT THE AMOUNT, SO YOU'RE ALREADY SETTING THAT MONEY ASIDE.
YOU HAVE THAT MONEY IN YOUR HSA ACCOUNT, AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE IF YOU HAVE A YEAR WHERE TWO PEOPLE MAX IT OUT.
IT'S TWO PEOPLE MAXIMUM EVEN ON A FAMILY PLAN.
I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF FEAR AROUND THIS, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN AROUND THIS.
I WISH I COULD TALK TO EACH ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE AND RUN THROUGH FOR THEIR FAMILIES.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE TRIED TO DO WHEN I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE TO SAY, LET'S SIT DOWN AND DO YOUR ANALYSIS FOR YOUR FAMILY AND SEE WHAT YOUR TOTAL RISK IS, WHAT YOUR KNOWN RISK IS VERSUS YOUR MAXIMUM RISK VERSUS WHAT YOUR BENEFIT COULD BE IF YOU WERE ON A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN.
IT IS COMPLICATED AND IT IS HARD.
THAT'S WHY I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.
WHETHER THE BOARD DECIDES TO GO WITH THE FOUR PLAN OPTIONS OR THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN, UNFORTUNATELY, THESE ARE OUR RENEWAL RATES.
THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THE COST OF OUR INSURANCE. IT'S WHAT WE HAVE.
IF WE DON'T VOTE ON THIS AND WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD, WE WILL NOT HAVE INSURANCE FOR EMPLOYEES NEXT YEAR.
>> LET ME GO BACK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
PUBLIC COMMENT? PUBLIC COMMENT'S CLOSED.
>> WE'RE WORKING IN WELLNESS PROGRAM ALREADY.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS WITH KRISTY BEFORE MAKE A MOTION?
>> WE'LL START WITH YOU, KEITH.
>> SURE. EARLIER, KRISTY, YOU STATED THAT THE DEADLINE WAS JUNE 1ST.
I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR BEFORE JUNE 1ST.
BUT IT DOES SOUND LIKE WE COULD CONTINUE THIS UNTIL NEXT WEDNESDAY AT SIX TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
>> KEITH, THE DEADLINE FOR INSURANCE IS TOMORROW.
>> JUNE 1ST IS WHEN WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF OUR ENROLLMENTS, ALL OF THE ELECTIONS.
ALL OF THE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO SUBMIT FOR INSURANCE THAT STARTS JULY 1ST HAS TO BE IN CIGNA BY JUNE 1ST.
WALKING BACK FROM THERE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A DEADLINE.
WE NEED AT LEAST A WEEK AFTER THE ENROLLMENT PERIOD CLOSES.
THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN IN PRIOR YEARS IS THAT WE DON'T GIVE ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE THEIR PLAN SELECTIONS IN THE BUSIEST TIME OF YEAR.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE STAFF ENOUGH TIME TO MAKE THEIR PLAN ELECTIONS, WHICH IS AT LEAST TWO WEEKS.
THAT GETS US TO THE SECOND WEEK OF MAY.
>> WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THE QUESTION VERY DIRECT.
DO YOU HAVE A LETTER THAT SAYS THIS IS DUE APRIL 18TH?
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF TIME.
I GET THAT. BUT TO SAY THAT OUR DEADLINE IS TODAY AND YOU'RE FORCING THE BOARD TO VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT NOT ALL OF US ARE CLEARLY UNDERSTANDING, CLEARLY OUR EMPLOYEES DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, I DISAGREE WHEN YOU SAY YOU HAVE A DEADLINE OF TODAY.
I THINK WE COULD FIND SOME TIME TO LET OUR EMPLOYEES DIGEST THIS, THINK ABOUT IT AND THEN MAKE A DECISION ONCE EVERYBODY'S SEEN IT.
TO JUST SPRING THIS ON EVERYBODY AT THE LAST SECOND AND THEN SAY THAT THERE'S THIS DEADLINE THAT I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT'S ACCURATE WHEN YOU SAY THERE IS A DEFINITE DEADLINE DICTATED TO YOU BY THE INSURANCE COMPANY OF APRIL 18TH, 2024.
I THINK WE NEED TO CLEAR THAT UP BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER.
>> I DID NOT SAY THAT WE HAVE A DEADLINE THAT'S DICTATED BY THE INSURANCE.
WE HAVE A DEADLINE THAT IS DICTATED BY THE TIMELINE TO GET ALL OF THE ENROLLMENTS INTO THE INSURANCE.
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SURE. WE CAN PUSH IT BACK, BUT THAT MEANS THAT STAFF WILL HAVE LESS TIME TO DECIDE.MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO GET OVER THE NEXT WEEK TO INFORM THE VOTE? I'M NOT MANDATING THE BOARD VOTE ON ANYTHING.
I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO VOTE ON ANYTHING.
I'M MERELY LAYING OUT THE TIMELINE IN THE SAME FASHION THAT WE'VE LAID OUT THE TIMELINE IN EVERY YEAR PRIOR TO THIS ONE.
THIS IS OUR TIMELINE, THIS IS OUR DEADLINE, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ALL THE ELECTIONS IN AND TO THE INSURANCE COMPANY.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. EARLIER YOUR COMMENT WAS WE HAD TO VOTE TONIGHT AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS REACTING TO.
IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE NEED TO VOTE TONIGHT.
SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE VOTED TONIGHT BUT CLEARLY OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THIS OVER AND I'M NOT PREPARED TO VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT OUR STAFF HAS NOT HAD THE TIME TO UNDERSTAND AND TO LOOK AT.
I'D LOVE TO HAVE MORE OF THEIR FEEDBACK AS TO WHERE THEY SEE THIS.
NOW, I SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS.
ONE OF OUR PROBLEMS IS AND I THINK IT'S WHY I ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND HAVE THINGS REPEATED IS BECAUSE WE ALL TALK REALLY FAST AND WHICH IS GREAT.
I LIKE THAT. BUT SOMETIMES IT'S MISSED IN THE TRANSLATION BECAUSE I SEE HOW WE'RE MOVING LOTS OF DIFFERENT MONEY.
BY SAVING ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE THAT'S GOING TO FREE UP MONEY FOR RAISES SO EMPLOYEES MAY SAY TO THEMSELVES, THIS IS A GOOD IDEA TO SAVE ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO FREE UP MORE MONEY FOR POTENTIAL RAISES.
IN THE END THEY MAY GET THERE BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOT MAKE DECISIONS SO RASHLY AND INSTEAD GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO UNDERSTAND THE DECISION BEFORE IT'S MADE.
I MAY BE ALL ALONE AS A MINORITY ON THIS ONE AND THAT'S FINE BUT MY MOTION WOULD BE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL NEXT WEDNESDAY AT 6:00 PM FOR A SPECIAL MEETING.
>> I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD THERE WAS A TCA AROUND THIS TIME.
>> WELL, LET'S SEE IF I GET A SECOND ON THAT.
>> LET'S HAVE A FULL-ON CONVERSATION WITH THE OTHER TRUSTEES BEFORE WE MAKE MOTIONS, PLEASE. YES, TRUSTEE ZOE.
>> I WOULD ACTUALLY AGREE WITH KEITH AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S BEEN ON THE BOTTOM OF SUPERINTENDENT CHAPMAN'S EMAIL, IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN THE INSURANCE PLEASE CLICK HERE BUT I THINK AND I UNDERSTAND UNTIL THE RUBBER REALLY MEETS THE ROAD AND WE GOT NUMBERS AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A REAL DECISION PEOPLE ARE LIKE WELL, I DON'T KNOW INSURANCE IS GOOD.
MAYBE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR SWITCH LAST YEAR OR WHATEVER.
I THINK EVEN JUST A WEEK IT COULD BE A WEEK FROM TODAY IT GOES OUT [OVERLAPPING]
>> LET ME JUST STOP FOR ONE SECOND.
A WEEK FROM TODAY WILL NOT WORK BECAUSE IT'S OUR SCHOLARSHIP NIGHT SO THAT ABSOLUTELY IS NOT GOING TO WORK FOR US.
IT'S FINE IF THE BOARD WANTS MORE INFORMATION, WHAT I WOULD ASK IS WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU WANT US TO POSE TO THE STAFF? BECAUSE WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE TWO OPTIONS TO CONSIDER.
WE DIDN'T GET ANY OTHER BIDS SO IT IS WHAT IT IS.
WHAT EXACT QUESTIONS WOULD THE BOARD LIKE FEEDBACK FROM THE STAFF ON TO HELP YOU MAKE A DECISION? BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND IT'S A TOUGH DECISION.
I UNDERSTAND THAT STAFF ARE LIKE, WAIT, WHAT? WHAT'S HAPPENING? WE DID HAVE MEMBERS OF TCA ON THE COMMITTEE SO WE DID HAVE REPRESENTATION.
IT JUST WASN'T A BIG GROUP OF PEOPLE.
HELP US SET YOU ALL UP FOR SUCCESS IN MAKING A DECISION.
WHAT QUESTION OR WHAT INFORMATION AND IN WHAT FORMAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW FROM THE STAFF?
>> WELL, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEING ASKED TO MAKE HEALTHCARE DECISIONS FOR THE ENTIRE STAFF.
>> I KNOW. BUT THIS IS A BIG CHANGE.
WE'RE GOING FROM THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO ONE AND IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT THE TWO OPTIONS ARE EITHER GO TO ONE,
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HSA, TRY TO PUT MORE MONEY IN THE STAFF'S POCKET BUT LIMIT HEALTH CARE OPTIONS OR KEEP ALL THE HEALTH CARE OPTIONS AND WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO RAISE SALARIES ACROSS THE BOARD AS MUCH.THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE AND LIKE YOU SAID AND LIKE HE SAID MAYBE IF GIVEN THOSE TWO OPTIONS EVERYONE SAYS, YEAH, I'D RATHER HAVE MORE MONEY IN MY POCKET AND THEN AN HSA OVERWHELMINGLY.
BUT I AGREE WITH KEITH JUST LIKE THE PROCESS I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO GIVE EVERYONE A LITTLE MORE TIME AND I BET YOU GET MORE RESPONSE.
>> IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO DO THAT? DO YOU WANT US TO DO THAT?
>> I LIKE NUMBERS INFORMATION AS THE BOARD NEED TO INFORM A DECISION.
>> I'M NOT SURE THAT I HAVE A QUESTION OR A RECOMMENDATION THAT WAY BUT I DO THINK THAT AS WE WERE LISTENING TO SOME OF THE COMMENTERS PARTICULARLY FROM ONLINE THE INFORMATION IS THAT THEIR COMMENTS WERE BASED ON THE RAISING AMOUNT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY WHICH ISN'T EVEN WHAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING AT ALL.
FOR ME I THINK THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PUT MONEY IN AN HSA, GET A RAISE THAT'S GOING TO WORK.
OUR JOB IS TO THINK ABOUT NOT JUST ONE FAMILY BUT AS MANY FAMILIES AS WE CAN AND I THINK THAT PROBABLY BENEFITS EVERYBODY BUT I ALSO HATE TO MAKE THAT KIND OF DECISION WITHOUT PEOPLE HAVING A FEW DAYS TO DIGEST THAT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE COMMENTS ARE THEY'RE NOT CLEAR WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON AND I THINK THAT THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON IS WHAT WE THINK IS ACTUALLY GOING TO PUT MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS.
SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE A CATASTROPHIC GEAR AND THAT'S TERRIBLE FOR ME.
YOU DON'T HAVE THAT IN MY FAMILY.
BUT IN GENERAL I THINK THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN IS BEST FOR EVERYBODY BUT I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO DIGEST THAT AND KNOW WHAT WE'RE VOTING FOR.
THAT'S WHERE I WOULD BE GOING.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED MORE INFORMATION I JUST THINK THEY NEED TIME TO PROCESS SO THAT IT'S NOT BEING DONE TO THEM.
THEY SAID THEY WERE DOING IT WITH THEM OR FOR THEM.
>> REALLY, I THINK THERE'S A PRETTY BIG MISUNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
I THINK BETSY PUTS IT WELL THAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET MORE MONEY IN PEOPLE'S POCKETS FOR THE LONG TERM.
AS MR. MORGAN SUGGESTED, WE'VE HAD TERRIBLE INFLATION HERE, AND WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO TRY TO DO THAT.
BUT I THINK THE MESSAGING HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT DEFICIENT.
IT'S NOBODY'S FAULT, IT JUST SOMETIMES HAPPENS THAT WAY.
IT SEEMS LIKE A COUPLE MORE DAYS MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO GET STAFF TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT YOU HAVE SAID TO US ABOUT PRESCRIPTIONS AND THAT THING MAKES TOTAL SENSE TO ME, BUT I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN THAT SAME UNDERSTANDING.
IF YOU ARE ON ZOOM AND IF YOU ARE HERE, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT WORD HAS GOTTEN AROUND.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE HAVE A FEW DAYS FOR PEOPLE TO DIGEST THAT, IT MIGHT BE LATER, AND TO ASK QUESTIONS OF YOU.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING? [LAUGHTER] TRUSTEE ZUNG, FOR YOUR SECOND.
>> I GUESS I WAS THINKING THAT IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO HAVE MORE THAN A FEW DAYS, JUST SOMETIME NEXT WEEK.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE WEDNESDAY.
I COULD HELP FORMULATE QUESTIONS.
I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME BECAUSE I LIKE DATA, I GUESS, THAT EVEN IF IT WAS A TWO-QUESTION SURVEY OR SOMETHING OF THE STUFF, THAT INFORMATION.
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IF PEOPLE DON'T COMPLETE THE SURVEY, THEN I THINK EVERYONE HAS A HEIGHTENED AWARENESS OF THIS ISSUE NOW.I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US MAKE THE DECISION.
THEY THINK THAT IF WE DO END UP WITH A ONE PLAN WITH THE HSA, THEN PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME, INDEED A LOT OF TIME TO CHOOSE A PLAN BECAUSE THERE'S ONE PLAN.
[LAUGHTER] AS FAR AS [INAUDIBLE] THE MONTH FOR PEOPLE TO DECIDE WHAT PLAN TO HAVE IF THERE'S ONLY ONE, EITHER YOU WANT IT OR YOU DON'T.
>> THE LONGER WE PUSH BACK THE VOTE, THE LESS TIME THE STAFF WILL HAVE TO HAVE TO ENROLL IN INSURANCE.
THE ONLY REASON I SAY THIS IS BECAUSE WE HAD FIVE EMPLOYEES LAST YEAR THAT FAILED TO REACH THE DEADLINE AND DID NOT HAVE INSURANCES THIS YEAR.
WITHOUT FAIL, WE WILL HAVE STAFF THAT SAY, THIS IS THE BUSIEST TIME OF YEAR FOR US AND YOU ONLY GAVE US A WEEK TO MAKE THIS DECISION.
I'M JUST INFORMING THAT THAT IS THE FEEDBACK WE WILL GET.
>> WHAT'S THE CALENDAR LOOK LIKE? [OVERLAPPING] TUESDAY? MONDAY?
>> EITHER ONE, MONDAY OR TUESDAY, WE COULD MAKE IT WORK.
IT GIVES US ENOUGH TIME FOR NOTICE.
>> SO THAT I COULD JUST COME OVER FOR VOTE.
IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? KEITH, IS THAT OKAY?
>> TRUSTEES, IN THE INTERIM, I WANT TO CLARIFY.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I MEET YOUR EXPECTATIONS.
SHALL WE OFFER A WEBINAR THAT'S RECORDED FOR A SPECIFIC TIME? WE RUN THROUGH BOTH OPTIONS, OFFER THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS, AND OFFER THE OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALS TO RUN THROUGH SCENARIOS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN ORDER TO GET INPUT, OR WOULD YOU PREFER A TWO-QUESTION SURVEY THAT WE COULD EXPLAIN EACH ONE AND YOU CAN SAY VOTE HERE OR HERE?
>> I THOUGHT WEBINAR IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
WHAT I WAS MOSTLY LOOKING FOR, AND I THOUGHT TRUSTEE MEAD SAID IT BEST, I JUST THINK THERE'S SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS BECAUSE I ACTUALLY THINK A LOT OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED BY KRISTEN IS POTENTIALLY GOOD.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHATEVER THE WEBINAR IS, THAT IT ALSO NOT JUST BE IN THE SILO OF HEALTH INSURANCE BECAUSE I THINK A HUGE PART OF WHAT THE BOARD'S LOOKING AT IS HOW THIS RELATES TO RAISES BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS MEETING TONIGHT WAS SOME VERY BRILLIANT THINGS THAT CHAIRMAN SCARLETT SAID.
I THINK WE ALL VERY MUCH TRUST CHAIRMAN SCARLETT WHEN IT COMES TO FINANCES, AND HE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS ON HOW TO GET RAISES.
BUT I THINK IN ORDER TO GET TO THE RAISES, WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE SOME SACRIFICES ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE SIDE.
IF EMPLOYEES UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY'RE NOT JUST BEING ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT HEALTH INSURANCE, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS ALTOGETHER AS TO RAISES AND HEALTH INSURANCE, AND JUST EXPLAINING IT TO THEM.
I'M NOT SURE I'M ASKING THEM TO ANSWER A QUESTION OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN I WOULD HOPE THEY WOULD COME TO OUR MEETING ON TUESDAY TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
THEN WE COULD LISTEN TO THAT PUBLIC COMMENT ON TUESDAY NIGHT AND THEN MAKE A GOOD DECISION.
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BUT I THINK JUST EXPLAINING EVERYTHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT WOULD BE GREAT.>> MAY I ADD TO THOSE SUGGESTIONS, PLEASE.
>> YOU HAVE TO COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
THAT WAY, KEITH KNOWS HE'S TALKING TO YOU.
>> KEITH STOPPED LOOKING OVER MY SHOULDER ANYWAY.
A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS. HEY, RATHER IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RAISES.
RATHER THAN JUST SAYING LIKE, RAISES AND THAT'S A VERY GENERIC TERM, LET'S BE AS SPECIFIC AS POSSIBLE IF WE'RE GOING TO GET A SURVEY OUT LIKE, WHAT IS THE NUMBER? BECAUSE I THINK THAT DOES AFFECT PEOPLE'S DECISIONS.
I THINK WE WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE THE MOST, SO IT'S NOT JUST A GENERIC TERM OF RAISE, BUT 174, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE.
>> WE'RE NOT DECIDING ON THAT ADJUSTMENT TONIGHT OR TUESDAY.
>> WE'RE SAYING THAT THIS WAY WILL ENABLE US TO BETTER CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE THE OTHER WAY, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO FREEZE IT AT 167.
>> UNDERSTOOD. I THINK THE MORE SPECIFIC INFORMATION PEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS, THE BETTER INFORMED, I THINK MAYBE THE MORE AGENCY THE TEACHERS WILL HAVE.
>> SO WE WILL JUST TABLE THAT UNTIL TUESDAY NIGHT, 5:30.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU'RE OKAY.
I COULD JUST MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT.
I WOULD MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO TUESDAY NIGHT AT SIX O'CLOCK.
>> IT'S GOOD THAT TRUSTEE GINGERY HAS SECONDED.
TRUSTEE ZUNG TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL TUESDAY NIGHT, APRIL 23RD AT 5:30 P.M. NEXT ITEM.
>> NEXT ITEM, TRUSTEES, DUE TO SOME CHANGES IN THE LEGISLATURE, THERE ARE THREE FIRST READS, WHICH MEANS ALL YOU'RE DOING IS SAYING, I APPROVE THAT WE ENTER INTO THIS 60 DAY WINDOW.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE PARENTS RIGHTS BILL.
THIS IS A FIRST DRAFT TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THE STATUTE.
THIS CODIFIES ESSENTIALLY WHAT OUR DISTRICT ALREADY DOES WITH SOME CHANGES IN FOR EXAMPLE, A WELL BEING QUESTIONNAIRE OR HEALTH SCREENING TOOL MUST BE MADE AVAILABLE AND OBTAIN WRITTEN ORAL OR ELECTRONIC CONSENT PRIOR TO ADMINISTRATION.
THAT'S SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT THAT EXCLUDES THE ROUTINE AUDIOLOGY, VISION, DENTAL, SCOLIOSIS, AND BODY MASS INDEX ASSESSMENTS.
THE REMAINING, I BELIEVE, OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THAT.
WE RECOGNIZE AND VALUE THE PARENTS TAKING THE LEAD IN THEIR CHILD'S EDUCATION AND ALSO KNOWING WHEN THERE'S A CHANGE IN THEIR STUDENTS WELL BEING AND WE COMMUNICATE THAT ALREADY.
THAT'S THE FIRST READ OF KBDB, PARENTAL RIGHTS IN EDUCATION.
>> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT'S HER NAME? [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]
>> I'LL TAKE WHAT'S YOUR NAME [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]
>> I'M GOING TO BREAK THIS UP. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON KBDB THE DRAFTED FORM OF THE PARENTS BRIGHTS POLICY? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? HEARING NONE, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS POLICY IN FIRST READ?
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED. IS THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE BOARD? SO YOU KNOW, THE SCHEDULE OF THIS, WE WILL LOOK AT THIS AGAIN NEXT MONTH.
IF YOU SEE ANY CHANGES OR BLARING THINGS, THIS IS A GOOD CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT IT NEXT MONTH.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE FIRST READ THE POLICY
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BBDB BY TRUSTEE CARLO AND SECOND BY TRUSTEE MEAD.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
>> IS BBB AND IT'S UPDATED FOR SCHOOL BOARD ELECTIONS AND MEMBERSHIP.
AND IT ADDS AND CLARIFIES FROM STATUTE THAT THE FIRST DAY OF DECEMBER AFTER RECEIVING NOTIFICATION OF ELECTION THAT THEY WILL ASSUME THE DUTIES OF THEIR OFFICES.
SO THAT'S A CLARIFICATION THERE.
>> THIS WAS A VERY PRESSING ISSUE DURING THE BUDGET SESSION THIS YEAR.
[LAUGHTER] I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW.
>> WHAT PROBLEM WAS IT ATTEMPTING TO SOLVE? ANY?
>> THERE IS A LEGISLATURE THAT PASSES FIRST BILL.
>> THE SECOND ITEM THAT'S SOMEWHAT CONNECTED.
I ALREADY KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN UPDATE TO IT.
SO BBBB BOARD MEMBER OATH OF OFFICE, AND AGAIN, THIS OATH MUST BE ADMINISTERED ON OR BEFORE THE FIRST DAY OF DECEMBER AFTER RECEIVING THE NOTIFICATION OF THEIR ELECTION OR WITHIN 10 DAYS OF NOTICE.
SO THE PART THE OATH WE'RE GOING TO RESOLVE BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE GOT THE WRONG SPOT.
SO WE ALREADY KNOW WE'VE GOT ONE EDIT, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE 60 DAYS AND IN OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING, I'LL PROVIDE AN UPDATE.
>> ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE VERY IMPORTANT AND PRESSING POLICY CHANGES? SEEING NONE, MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> SO WE CAN MOVE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
SO WHAT'S CROSSED OUT IS THE CORRECT OATH.
WHAT GOT ADDED IS THE WRONG OATH.
WHAT GOT ADDED THERE IS THE OATH WHEN YOU GO IN TO SIGN UP TO RUN FOR OFFICE.
THE ONE THAT WAS THERE THAT GOT CROSSED OUT IS THE CORRECT OATH THAT THEY TAKE ONCE YOU GET ELECTED.
THE ONE THAT GOT CROSSED OUT IS THE ONE FROM THE CONSTITUTION.
THE ONE THAT GOT ADDED IS JUST FROM THE ELECTION STATUTES THAT YOU'D LIKE TO RUN FOR OFFICE.
SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THE ONE THAT GOT DELETED BE PUT BACK IN AND THE ONE THAT WAS ADDED BE DELETED OUT, AND THEN WE COULD VOTE ON.
>> CAN WE JUST NOT DO ANYTHING ON BBBB?
>> NO. THE ONLY THING WE NEED TO ADD IS THAT ONE SENTENCE.
>> AND ANDREA HAS ALREADY FIXED IT ONLINE.
>> SO WHEN WE COME BACK IN NEXT MONTH, I'LL PROVIDE AN UPDATE, BUT TO TRUSTEE GINGERY'S POINT, ANDREA HAS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF IT.
SO I THINK WE'RE ALL SET THERE.
>> WELL, LET'S MOVE TO APPROVE BBBB AS AMENDED.
>> SO I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FIRST READ OF POLICY BBB SCHOOL BOARD ELECTIONS MEMBERSHIP, AND IS A PROCEDURE? BB BOARD MEMBER OATH OF OFFICE?
>> I MAKE THAT MOTION, YOUR HONOR.
>> IT'S ABOUT TIME I GOT [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER]
>> TRUSTEE MEAD SECONDED, TRUSTEE SCARLETT TOO, TO APPROVE BBB SCHOOL BOARD'S ELECTIONS OF MEMBERSHIP AS PRESENTED, AND PROCEDURE BBBB OR MEMBER OATH OF OFFICE AS AMENDED.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
>> ANY OPPOSED? NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT WITH MOGUL CAPITAL.
>> THANK YOU. TRUSTEES, MOGUL CAPITAL IS REPRESENTED BY STEFAN FODOR AND HE IS PRESENT, SO I AM CONFIDENT THAT HE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE LOOKING SOUTH PARK LOOP ROAD IS PART OF THE DISTRICT PROPERTY, AND SO MOGUL CAPITAL IS CONSTRUCTING THE LOOP APARTMENTS ON SOUTH PARK LOOP ROAD.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE A PERMISSION FOR A CENTER TURNING LANE AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT SOUTH PARK LOOP RIGHT OF WAY.
THERE'S AN AGREEMENT THAT WOULD GOVERN THAT,
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AND AS WELL AS PERMISSION TO ENCROACH ON THE SOUTH PARK LOOP RIGHT OF WAY WITH TEMPORARY SHORING TIEBACKS AND TO HAVE THAT GOVERNED BY THE DRAFT ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT.SO THERE'S TWO ITEMS. SARA VAN GENDEREN AND STEFAN HAD BEEN WORKING CLOSELY TOGETHER.
I WILL STOP THERE AND HAVE YOU ASK THE EXPERTS THE QUESTIONS?
>> I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
>> CAN YOU COME UP AND JUST QUICKLY INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM WHAT [INAUDIBLE]
>> THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR, TRUSTEES. STEFAN FODOR HERE.
[LAUGHTER] I APPRECIATE THE INTRODUCTION BY THE SUPERINTENDENT.
I WANT TO STAND FOR QUESTIONS, BUT IF YOU LIKE, I CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON HOW WE GOT HERE.
BUT I THINK TRUSTEE MEAD HAD AN IMMEDIATE QUESTION.
>> WE'RE JUST DEALING WITH THE ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT NOW, NOT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, CORRECT? IS THAT RIGHT?
>> TRUSTEE MEAD, ASKING FOR APPROVAL ON CONSIDERATION APPROVAL ON BOTH AGREEMENTS.
>> ON THE ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT, I JUST DON'T SEE ANY TIME LIMIT ON THERE, WHEN THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN, WHEN IT MUST BE DONE.
THE REASON I ASKED THIS, MR. FODOR, IS BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE SOME CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS GOING ON IN THAT SAME AREA, WHICH MAY BE IMPEDED IF THIS GOES ON INDEFINITELY.
SO WHAT IS THE TIME PERIOD? IT MAY BE CONTAINED IN THE PERMIT THAT THE TOWN GIVES YOU, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, TRUSTEE MEAD.
JUST TODAY, I SENT OVER A PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION PLAN TO THE TOWN OF JACKSON.
THE BUILDING PERMIT WILL BE ISSUED IMMINENTLY.
THE ANTICIPATED START DATE OF CONSTRUCTION IS MAY 7TH, THIS YEAR, WITH COMPLETION OF APRIL 13TH OF 2026.
THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE SOUTH PARK LOOP RIGHT OF WAY ABOVE GROUND ARE ORIGINALLY STATED TO TAKE PLACE NEAR THE END OF THE PROJECT IN DECEMBER TO APRIL OF '26.
THERE WAS DISCUSSION THIS AFTERNOON AMONG THE MOGUL CONSTRUCTION TEAM WITH A DESIRE TO MOVE THAT UP TO THIS SUMMER, SO THAT WOULD BE FOR THE ABOVE GROUND IMPROVEMENTS.
THE TEMPORARY SHORING NAILS WILL FOLLOW EXCAVATION, WHICH WILL BEGIN IN MAY.
THAT WILL INVOLVE SOME SITE PLAN WORK, AND AFTER THAT, WE DIG THE H-PILES.
THEN ONCE THE H-PILES ARE PUT IN PLACE, THE BACK OR NORTH SIDE OF THE H-PILES ARE EXCAVATED IN FIVE-FOOT LIFTS, AND THEN WE PUT IN WOOD LAGGING LIKE YOU SEE FURTHER EAST ON SOUTH PARK LOOP ROAD.
AS THAT'S DUG DOWN ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF IT, THEN THE SHORING NAILS GO IN.
THAT'S WHAT KEEPS THE H-PILES FROM PUSHING BACK ON THE SUBADJACENT GRADE.
OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, WE DIG DOWN, THOSE SOIL NAILS GO IN.
ONCE THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED, AND I'M NOT SURE WHEN THE ENGINEER CERTIFIES THAT THE FOUNDATION CAN TAKE THE LOAD, BUT ONCE THE BUILDING IS CONSTRUCTED, THEN THE SOIL NAILS ARE NO LONGER NEEDED.
THEY'RE DETENSIONED, H-PILES ARE PULLED, THE LAGGING IS PULLED, AND THOSE REMAIN IN PLACE UNLESS AND UNTIL YOU, AS THE OWNER OF THE ROADWAY, DECIDE TO PULL THOSE.
WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD IS THAT YOU CAN LEAVE THEM INDEFINITELY, AND OFTEN PEOPLE DO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT WITH HOTEL JACKSON IN THE TOWN JACKSON RIGHT AWAY ON THE GLENWOOD EXTENSION.
THE PROCESS FOR REMOVING THE SOIL NAIL IS AS YOU START DIGGING, YOU JUST PULL THEM UP WITH AN EXCAVATOR.
IT'S GROUT AND A LONG NAIL, AND THE TIME AND EFFORT TO REMOVE A SOIL NAIL IS REALLY MINIMAL.
AS YOU DIG YOUR BUCKET, [INAUDIBLE] EXPLAINED TO ME, YOU SHAKE YOUR BUCKET, TAKE YOUR SOIL NAIL, TOSS IT TO THE SIDE, YOU PUT YOUR DIRT WHERE YOU DO IT.
BACK TO YOUR QUESTION OF TIMING, MOGUL IS ANTICIPATING GETTING THEIR DIRT WORK DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
IF THERE'S ANY WORK IN THE SOUTH PARK LOOP RIGHT AWAY BY THE DISTRICT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SOIL NAILS WOULD NOT IMPEDE THAT WORK.
ONCE THEY ARE DETENSIONED, THEN THEY CAN BE REMOVED THERE AT ANY POINT IN TIME.
IF YOUR QUESTION IS DURING THE TIME THEY'RE UNDER TENSION, THAT I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO.
>> WELL, THIS DOCUMENT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT TIME PERIOD IN, SO IT NEEDS TO ADD THAT, I THINK, BEFORE I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH US GOING FORWARD WITH THIS TO HAVE A SPECIFIC TIME PERIOD WHEN THIS IS GOING TO OCCUR.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, TRUSTEE MEAD, WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE WITH A APRIL 2026 OUTSIDE DATE FOR WHEN THE ENCROACHMENTS WOULD BE COMPLETE AND READY TO BE DETENSIONED?
>> WELL, I THINK THE PROBLEM, AND MAYBE DEANNA CAN ANSWER THIS, WAS OUR DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND SUCH,
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WOULD BE IF YOU GUYS WERE IN THE WAY WHEN WE WANTED TO START WORK ON OUR REAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING.>> MR. CHAIR, TRUSTEE MEAD, REALLY, I CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS INFORMATION.
I WOULD ASK THE LIMITS OF DISTURBANCE FOR YOUR PROJECT.
WILL THAT IMPACT WHERE WE ARE? I ALSO KNOW I WAS REVIEWING THE TRAFFIC STUDY FOR OUR PROJECT TODAY, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE DO NOT HAVE TO DO A TURNING LANE OR GO INTO THE STREET.
I THINK THAT MINIMIZES THAT RISK, BUT I CANNOT ANSWER WITHOUT SEEING.
>> WE'D LIKE YOU TO FIGURE THAT OUT FOR US.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, TRUSTEE MEAD, IT MAY BE HELPFUL TO PULL UP THE SHORING PLAN.
EVEN WITHOUT LOOKING AT MEASUREMENTS, IT MAY GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE LIMITS OF IMPACT WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY IF YOU WERE GOING TO, FOR EXAMPLE, DO SEWER WORK OR WATER LINE WORK.
THE SHORING NAILS ARE ALL SUBGRADE.
WE CAN SEE ON THE DIAGRAM HERE, EACH OF THESE RED LINES, KEEP POINTING TO THE LINES THAT ARE ON THE UPPER PART OF THE SCREEN OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.
THE RED LINE IS YOUR RIGHT OF WAY IN THE PROPERTY LANE, AND THESE ARE THE SPECIFICALLY THE SHORING NAILS ENCROACHED INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S CONTEMPLATED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S WORK BUT THESE, IN MY VIEW AS I'VE BEEN TOLD, DEVELOPED IT IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEY'RE ALL SEPARATE.
THE GREATER DISTURBANCE TO THE TRAVEL LANE ARE THE IMPROVEMENTS RELATED TO THE CENTER TURNING LANE, THE INSTALLATION OF THE BIKE PATH AND THE WALKWAYS.
IF YOU CAN GIVE ME SOME DIRECTION ON WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, I'M SURE THAT MS. VAN GENDEREN AND I CAN WORK OUT SOME SUITABLE LANGUAGE.
>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS SOME TIME PERIOD, BOTH FOR THAT ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT, AS WELL AS THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
NEITHER OF WHICH, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ACTUALLY PROVIDES THAT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DO THAT TURN LANE UNTIL YOU GET YOUR OCCUPANCY PERMIT, THAT'S THE LATEST.
>> THAT'S A LONG TIME IN THE FUTURE.
IT REALLY DOESN'T SAY WHEN THAT WOULD BE.
JUST IN THE INTEREST OF DUE DILIGENCE, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A CONTRACT THAT HAS SOME TIME CONSTRAINTS IN IT, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS YOU TAKE OUT THE LANGUAGE THAT IN THE RECITALS, IT SAYS, THE TOWN HAS FOR SOME TIME ASSUMES MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SOUTH PARK LOOP ROAD WITHOUT BEING OBLIGED TO DO SO.
THEY HAVE BEEN OBLIGED TO DO SO.
SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO JUST PUT A PERIOD BEHIND THE SOUTH PARK LOOP ROAD.
>> EXCUSE ME, TRUSTEE MEAD. WHICH AGREEMENT? [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT SAYS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
>> DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, RECITALS, FOURTH PARAGRAPH.
>> I JUST SCRATCH THE OBLIGED TO DO SO?
>> YEAH. IT'S IN THE RECITALS.
THAT WAS THE BIGGEST THING STEFAN REALLY IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIME PERIOD.
>> LOOKING AT THE PLAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO IMPACT ANY OF OUR PROJECTS, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
BUT I WOULD AGREE THAT HAVING SOME TIME FRAME ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE EASEMENT IS A GOOD IDEA.
MY QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR YOU, STEFAN, OR FOR SARAH.
IN YOUR LETTER, YOU OUTLINE THREE OPTIONS AND YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
I GUESS MAYBE THIS IS ALSO A QUESTION FOR YOU, KATE, BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THAT THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY OBLIGED TO PROVIDE MAINTENANCE.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST GO TO NUMBER 2 AND GRANT THE TOWN OF JACKSON THE EASEMENT SO THAT THEY COULD ENTER IN THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND LEAVE US OUT OF IT?
>> MAYBE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR STATUS, POWER AND OWNERSHIP.
>> BUT THIS WOULD BE AN EASEMENT, NOT THE THIRD ONE, WHICH WAS GIVING THEM THE RIGHT AWAY.
>> KEITH HAS A [INAUDIBLE]? OKAY.
>> WHEN YOU'RE DONE, I'LL CALL KEITH.
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>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION. I THOUGHT WE SHOULD ANSWER THAT.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, TRUSTEE ZUNG, THOSE ARE OPTIONS THAT THE TOWN ATTORNEY AND I HAVE DISCUSSED FOR THE DISTRICT TO CONSIDER POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE.
THOSE OPTIONS WILL TAKE SOME TIME.
THE ENTIRE ROAD HAS TO BE SURVEYED FOR A LEGAL DESCRIPTION, WHETHER YOU DO A CONVEYANCE OR AN EASEMENT.
NOT YOUR PROBLEM, BUT WE ARE UNDER SOME TIME PRESSURE TO BEGIN.
WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A COMPROMISED WAY OF HAVING THE TOWN ADMINISTER THE DETAILS WHICH THEY NORMALLY DO OF, THIS IS HOW YOU WORK IN THE ROADWAY, WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE YOUR PLANS.
IF THERE ARE CHANGE ORDERS, THIS IS HOW THEY COME.
WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT AND ACCEPT CONVEYANCE.
WE FELT THAT WAS THE BEST COMPROMISE, WAS TO GIVE THE DISTRICT NOTICE AND APPROVAL RIGHTS AS OPPOSED TO GOING THROUGH AND ASKING YOU ON AN EXPEDITED BASIS TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT CONVEYING AND GIVING UP PERMANENT LAND OR CONVEYING AND GIVING A PERMANENT EASEMENT.
WE ARE ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION IN THE FIRST ITEM WHICH WE THOUGHT WAS THE LESSER ASK.
YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO MAKE SOME PRETTY HEAVY DECISIONS TONIGHT.
HOPEFULLY, THIS ONE'S [INAUDIBLE].
>> THANK YOU. WE'VE ALSO GOT A SEWER LINE.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO SELL. WE CAN START THAT NEGOTIATION TOO. [INAUDIBLE]
WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO, I WAS JUST WORRIED.
SOMETIMES THIS TOWN, IF YOU HAVE AN EASEMENT, THEY WON'T LET YOU COUNT THAT TOWARDS YOUR GROSS SIDE AREA.
I WAS WORRIED THAT IF WE'RE USING THIS LAND IN ORDER FOR FLOOR AREA RATIO WITH OUR PROJECT, I WAS JUST WORRIED THAT SOMEHOW THAT WOULD WORK AGAINST US.
I THINK WE DO NEED TO CONVEY THIS.
WE DON'T NEED A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE OF A ROAD, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE IT UP YET BECAUSE THEY NEED IT FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE PURPOSES FOR COMPUTATIONS, AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING DOWN THE STREET A LITTLE BIT.
THIS IS A VERY WEIRD PIECE OF ROAD.
OWNS A BUNCH OF PIECES IN IT, WE OWN A BUNCH OF PIECES.
IT JUST IS A REAL GOOFY ROAD THAT NEEDS TO GET FIXED SOME OTHER DAY, BUT NOT NOW.
NOW WE NEED TO HELP GET THIS DONE FOR STEFAN AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, SO THEY CAN MOVE AHEAD AND WE CAN MOVE AHEAD.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING NOT TO FORGET ABOUT WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH ALL THESE PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO CLEAN UP THE OWNERSHIP ALONG IN THIS ROAD.
>> I MIGHT ADD THAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO CONSIDER TODAY DOES NOT IMPEDE OR IMPAIR OPTIONS 1 AND 2 OF CONVEYANCE OF DEED OR CONVEYANCE OF LAND IN THE FUTURE.
THIS IS AN INTERIM STEP THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER.
>> ON PARAGRAPH 11 OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IT'S THE INSURANCE PARAGRAPH.
IT SAYS THE TOWN IS AN ADDITIONAL INSURED, BUT TCSD NEEDS TO BE ADDITIONALLY INSURED ON THE INSURANCE POLICY.
>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MEAD. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M NOT SURE OF THE COMFORT LEVEL OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, BUT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER A MOTION WITH THE CHANGES REQUESTED THIS EVENING AND TO HAVE THE BOARD CHAIR AUTHORIZE TO SIGN UPON REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE DISTRICT'S ATTORNEY?
>> I DON'T HAVE A LOT EXPERTISE HERE, SO I'M GOING TO TURN TO THOSE WHO DO.
>> MR. [INAUDIBLE], I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT, I THINK.
>> I WOULD TOO. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BEFORE YOU.
>> WELL, WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I'M STILL UNCLEAR.
THIS IS A REALLY DUMB SIMPLE QUESTION, WHERE THESE APARTMENTS WILL BE.
I CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT FROM YOUR DESCRIPTION HERE.
I'VE LOOKED AT THE MAP AND I [INAUDIBLE].
>> [INAUDIBLE] ON THE MAP EITHER.
>> THIS DESCRIBES SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD SEE AROUND THAT AREA.
>> WHY DO YOU NEED THE LAND FOR THE TURNING LANE FROM US?
>> TRUSTEE DORNAN, IF YOU KNOW WHERE JACK ROBINSON'S PLACE IS.
JACK ROBINSON HAS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF CORRALS AND INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED TO HIS RANCHING OPERATIONS ON SOUTH PARK LOOP ROAD.
SOME PEOPLE MIGHT CONSIDER IT A LITTLE BIT OF OUTDATED RANCH COMPOUND. JUST EAST OF THAT.
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>> THE SOFTBALL FIELD? IF YOU GO RIGHT OVER THE LEFT FIELD, THIS, IT'S RIGHT THERE.
>> GOT IT. TO ANSWER THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION, WHY ARE WE ASKING TO USE DISTRICT LAND OR WHY ARE WE ASKING FOR AN EXPANSION? THE EXPANSION IS BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO LANES AND THE TOWN OF JACKSON REQUIRED MOBILE CAPITAL TO INSTALL A TURNING LANE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY TURNS INTO THREE LANES FOR A PORTION OF THAT ROADWAY.
IN ORDER TO DO SO, WE NEED TO EXPAND THE ROADWAY, STILL WITHIN THE ORIGINAL RIGHT OF WAY, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING FROM TWO LANES TO A THIRD LANE.
THERE'S WHAT WE CALL A DECELERATION LANE AND THEN A STOCKPILING LANE.
THE S CARS AND VEHICLES ARE TURNING LEFT OR SOUTH INTO THE MOBILE PROPERTY, IT DOESN'T IMPEDE WESTBOUND TRAFFIC ON SOUTH PARK LOOP ROAD.
THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAD BEEN REQUESTED THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE OTHER SITE PLAN ARE A FOUR-FOOT BIKE PATH ON THE NORTH END OF SOUTH PARK LOOP ROAD, A BUFFER, THE WIDTH OF WHICH I'M NOT CERTAIN, THEN AN EIGHT-FOOT, WHAT THEY CALL A CYCLE TRACK, AND A SIX-FOOT SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH PART.
ALL OF THOSE, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY THIS THIRD TRAVEL LANE FOR THIS PORTION, REQUIRES AN EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING PAVEMENT ALL WITHIN THE RIGHT AWAY.
I HOPE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
>> THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, FOR SOME REASON, OWNS THIS PIECE OF LAND.
>> LET ME TAKE A MOTION. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THANK YOU, STEFAN. PUBIC COMMENT.
NO PUBLIC COMMENT. I'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> MR. CHAIR, I HAVE MOVED TO APPROVE THE ENCOURAGEMENT AGREEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH MOBILE CAPITOL SUBJECT TO THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD THIS EVENING OF ADDING TCSD AS AN ADDITIONAL INSURED AND PUTTING IN A TIME PERIOD FOR WHEN THIS JOB WILL BE STARTED AND COMPLETED AND SET OTHER CHANGES AS OUR ATTORNEY DEEMS APPROPRIATE.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT WITH MOBILE CAPITOL AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL NAMING THE TCS IS AN ADDITIONAL INSURED SETTING A COMPLETION DATE AND WAS.
AND ANY OTHER CHANGES THAT THE ATTORNEY DID NECESSARY? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
>> APPROVE CONSIDERATION AND YOUR FLEXIBILITY, IT'S APPRECIATED.
>> THANKS, STEFAN. THANKS FOR SITTING THROUGH THIS MEETING.
[OVERLAPPING] NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 4 APPROVAL OF THE SELECTION OF PREMIER GREEN CLEANING FOR CUSTODIAL SERVICES.
>> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, TRUSTEES, DIANA HARTER FACILITIES DIRECTOR.
YES, I HAVE FOR CONSIDERATION, SELECTION OF PREMIER GREEN CLEANING FOR DISTRICT CUSTODIAL SERVICES FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
I'D LIKE TO JUST RUN THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WHY WE HAVE THIS BEFORE YOU NOW.
THE DISTRICT CONTRACTS OUT CUSTODIAL SERVICES AT MULTIPLE FACILITIES.
OUR EXISTING CONTRACT FOR CUSTODIAL SERVICES EXPIRES THE END OF JUNE.
ONE FROM PREMIER GREEN CLEANING AND ONE FROM Y CLOVE.
WE FORMED A SELECTION COMMITTEE, WHICH INCLUDED MYSELF, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, CHARLOTTE REYNOLDS AND KRISTEN MAYO AND PRINCIPAL TRACE PODUSKA.
WE EVALUATED BOTH BOTH THE PROPOSALS THEY SUBMITTED AND WE ALSO INTERVIEWED BOTH COMPANIES, AND WE BASED OUR EVALUATION ON BOTH OF THOSE.
I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE EVALUATION CRITERIA THAT WE USED TO MAKE OUR SELECTION, AND IT WAS BASED ON QUALIFICATIONS AND PRICE.
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THERE WERE FOUR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, ONE WAS THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE PROGRAM.THE SECOND WAS THEIR EXPERIENCE.
THE THIRD WAS THEIR STAFFING PLAN AND THEIR SUPERVISION AND QUALITY CONTROL PLAN, AND THE LAST ELEMENT WAS PRICE.
AFTER EVALUATING BOTH COMPANIES, THE SELECTION COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDS MOVING FORWARD AND CONTRACTING WITH PREMIER GREEN CLEANING.
WITH THAT, I STAND FOR QUESTIONS.
>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? TRUSTEE GINGERY.
>> I HAD TWO CONCERNS WITH THIS.
ONE WAS IN THE PROPOSAL FROM PREMIER GREEN.
HE STATES THAT HE WILL NOT BE DOING BACKGROUND CHECKS, AND THAT SOMEHOW IS GOING TO SAVE US MONEY.
HE'LL DO THE BACKGROUND CHECKS ONCE THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE, BUT IMMEDIATELY HE WON'T BE DOING THEM.
THE SECOND CONCERN WAS THE PRICE DIFFERENTIAL IS HUGE.
PREMIER GREEN IS OFFERING TO DO THIS FOR ALMOST $1 MILLION, 988,000.
WHITE GLOVE IS OFFERING TO DO IT FOR SUBSTANTIALLY LESS AT 830,000.
MY CONCERN THOUGH, WAS WHEN I LOOK AT THE SCORE SHEETS, PREMIER GREEN SCORED HIGHER ON PRICE.
I GET THAT THEY MIGHT SCORE HIGHER ON SOME OF THE MORE SUBJECTIVE ONES, BUT CLEARLY THE LOWER PRICE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A HIGHER SCORE, EVEN IF THE OTHER SUBJECTIVE STANDARDS SCORE HIGHER.
IT JUST SEEMED ODD TO ME THAT THESE PEOPLE SCORING DECIDED THAT THE HIGHEST PRICE WOULD SCORE HIGHER THAN THE LOWEST PRICE, WHICH WAS VERY ODD.
MOSTLY WHAT MY CONCERN IS THAT I GET WHY WE WEREN'T DOING A STRAIGHT UP BID BECAUSE IF IT WAS A STRAIGHT UP BID, CLEARLY WHITE GLOVE WOULD HAVE WON.
WE'RE DOING AN RFP, REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, SO WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER FACTORS OTHER THAN JUST PRICE.
BUT STILL PRICE IS A PRETTY IMPORTANT FACTOR, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH INSURANCE AND RAISES AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS AND NORMALLY, THOSE PRICES NEED TO BE A LITTLE CLOSER TOGETHER.
THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE 988,000 AND 830,000.
THOSE WERE MY TWO CONCERNS THAT THE BID PRICE WAS QUITE EXTRAVAGANT FOR PREMIER AND THE NON BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT PREMIER PUT IN THEIR PROPOSAL.
>> MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY THE FIRST QUESTION ABOUT THE BACKGROUND CHECKS.
>> WE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS WITH PREMIER AT THEIR INTERVIEW.
THEIR CONCERN WAS THE TIME IT TAKES.
THEY WILL NEED TO BE HIRING STAFF IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES.
THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT IT MAY TAKE THEM SOME TIME IN ORDER TO HIRE STAFF AND GO THROUGH THIS PROCEDURE THROUGH THE BACKGROUND.
WHAT THEY ASKED FOR AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH THEM IS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING THAT THEY HAVE 45 DAYS THAT ALL EMPLOYEES THAT THEY HIRE AND ARE GOING TO BE WORKING UNDER THIS CONTRACT WILL HAVE STARTED THE BACKGROUND CHECK, BUT THEN THEY HAVE 45 DAYS FOR THAT PROCEDURE TO RUN THROUGH THE PROCESS.
JUST TO CLARIFY, THEY WILL BE BACKGROUND CHECKED PER TETON COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT POLICY, BUT WE'RE ALLOWING THEM A GRACE PERIOD TO DO THAT.
THAT DISCUSSION, WHAT OCCURRED IN COORDINATION WITH HR TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ALIGNED WITH TCSDS PRACTICES.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE PRICING?
>> SURE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE PRICING.
REGARDING THE PRICING, THE COMMITTEE FELT VERY STRONGLY THAT, OR I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND ALSO THE DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMITTEE, THAT THE REASON WE FELT THE PRICING WAS REASONABLE WAS BECAUSE OF THE SUPERVISION AND THE QUALITY CONTROL MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT PREMIER PRESENTED AND IS GOING TO USED TO MANAGE THIS CONTRACT.
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IT WAS VERY THOROUGH, AND IT INCLUDES HAVING A FULL TIME SUPERVISOR MANAGING THIS CONTRACT ON A DAILY BASIS.THE COMMITTEE BELIEVED THAT THAT PROVIDES A LOT OF VALUE FOR THE DISTRICT TO ENSURE THAT THINGS ARE DONE CONSISTENTLY AND TO THE LEVEL THAT WE WOULD LIKE.
>> MR. CHAIR. AS ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, I WOULD ADD THAT ONE OF MY CONCERNS WITH THE WHITE GLOVE PROPOSAL, AND I THINK PART OF THE RANKING ON THE PRICING HAD TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT WHITE GLOVE PRESENTED A PROPOSAL THAT USED OUR STAFF AS THE JUSTIFICATION FOR HAVING A LOWER PRICE ON SUPERVISION AND MANAGEMENT.
WHAT WAS RELAYED DURING THE INTERVIEW WAS, WELL, YOU ALREADY HAVE A CUSTODIAL SUPERVISOR, SO YOUR EMPLOYEE CAN PROVIDE THAT SERVICE, WHICH ALLOWS US TO KEEP OUR PRICE LOWER.
THAT WAS A CONCERN TO ME PERSONALLY BECAUSE THAT DISTRICT EMPLOYEE HAS A VARIETY OF RESPONSIBILITIES, AND IT DIDN'T FEEL THAT IT PROVIDED THE CONTRACTOR THE LEVEL OF MANAGEMENT OVERSIGHT AND SUPERVISION THAT I THINK THE DISTRICT WAS LOOKING FOR IN THE RFP.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR HARTER?
>> MR. CHAIR, DIRECTOR HARTER, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE BID AMOUNTS?
>> THE DIFFERENCE IN THE BID AMOUNT.
THE TOTAL BID FOR PREMIER CLEANING WAS 960,550, AND I SHOULD SAY THE NUMBERS I'M GIVING YOU NOW ARE FOR THE SCHOOLS.
THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL CHARGES FOR RESTROOM CLEANING, BUT FOR PRICE COMPARISON, PREMIER WAS 960,550 AND WHITE GLOVE WAS 804,366.
>> WELL, MR. CHAIR AND DIRECTOR HARTER, I DON'T NEED TO REMIND YOU ABOUT THIS DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE JUST HAD ABOUT RAISES.
THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. THAT'S $156,000 DIFFERENCE.
I'M DEFINITELY A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
MAYBE KEITH ASKED FOR THOSE SCORE CARDS, BUT I DIDN'T SEE THOSE IN OUR BOARD POCKET.
BUT I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF SOMETIMES YOU CAN NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS.
MAYBE HEARING TRUSTEE MEETS CONCERNED ABOUT COSTS, AND WE JUST HAD A HUGE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BUDGET.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN OPTION TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE THE PRICE AT ALL.
I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE PROVIDING MORE SUPERVISION, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING GETS DONE WELL.
WE'RE NOT HAVING TO DISPLAY OUR RESOURCES SUPERVISING SO I DON'T KNOW.
I'M JUST RUN OUT OF THOUGHTS RIGHT NOW.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAD ONE OTHER COMMENT ON THE SUPERVISION, AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THIS AS AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR.
THE WAY THAT IN PRACTICE CONTRACT IS ROLLED OUT IS PROBLEMATIC AS FAR AS THE LEVEL OF SUPERVISION AND INTERACTION WE'VE HAD WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES.
SO WE ALSO FEEL THAT THERE IS A PROFESSIONAL LIABILITY REASON THAT WE SHOULD ENGAGE WITH A CONTRACTOR WHO REALLY PROVIDES THAT FULL SERVICE THAT WE'RE CONTRACTING OUT.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, YES, OF COURSE, WE CAN NEGOTIATE WITH THEM.
AND I WILL NOTE, I DIDN'T MENTION IN MY OPENING REMARKS, WE DID HAVE SOME DISCUSSION WITH THEM.
THEY WERE VERY EAGER TO COME IN, GET STARTED AND THEN OFFER EFFICIENCIES TO THE DISTRICT.
BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT WITH THEIR PROCEDURES, THEIR QUALITY CONTROL PROCEDURES AND THAT THE WAY THEY TAKE A LOOK AT FREQUENCIES AND FLOW OF WORK THAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME SAVINGS AFTER THEY GET THEIR FEET WET AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE NEED.
AND I THINK MOVING FORWARD, THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO PARTNER WITH US TO EVEN MAKE CHANGES TO OUR LEVEL OF SERVICES, OR OUR FREQUENCIES IF WE AREN'T ABLE TO
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AFFORD THE FULL PROTOCOL THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THIS CONTRACT SO ABSOLUTELY.>> WAS IT WHITE GLOVE THAT WE WERE CONCERNED WITH IN THE PAST REGARDS QUALITY WORK? WAS THAT THE COMPANY THAT WE HAD TO QUESTION OVER POOR QUALITY?
>> MR. CHAIR AND TRUSTEE DORNAN, YES, WE HAVE HAD CHALLENGES WITH THE CONTRACT WITH WHITE GLOVE IN THE PAST THAT WE'VE HAD TO ADDRESS AND HAVE COME BEFORE THE BOARD.
>> [INAUDIBLE] HAVE BEEN SAID.
>> I'D JUST LIKE TO OFFER TOO.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD'S COMFORTABLE WITH THIS DECISION.
THAT'S WHY WE STARTED THIS PROCESS WHERE WE ARE.
SO IF THERE IS MORE INFORMATION OR QUESTIONS OR NEGOTIATIONS YOU'D LIKE ME TO ENGAGE IN, WE DO HAVE TIME TO TABLE THIS AND BRING IT BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION IF THAT'S DESIRED.
>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU ARE GOING TO CONTINUE THE ITEM, I'D BE INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING BETTER.
IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS A POLICY FOR ALL EMPLOYEES THAT ALLOWS FOR A 45 DAY GAP OF TIME BEFORE THEIR BACKGROUND CHECK IS COMPLETED.
I'D BE VERY INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT THAT POLICY BECAUSE IF THAT'S ACCURATE THAT RAISES CONCERNS FOR ME THAT IF WE HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE WORKING FOR 45 DAYS OR CONTRACTORS WORKING FOR 45 DAYS BEFORE WE GET BACK THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, THAT'S A CONCERN.
I'D LOVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT POLICY BETTER.
I ALSO THINK YOU MAY HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ONE BEFORE YOU CONTINUE IT.
>> MR. CHAIR, TRUSTEE GINGERY, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE 45 DAYS IS NOT THE POLICY OF THE DISTRICT.
WHEN I WANTED TO GIVE THE CONTRACTOR SOME TIME, I INSERTED I LIKE TO HAVE A CERTAIN BOOKEND ON TIME.
SO I ADDED 45 DAYS, WHICH I WAS THINKING WAS REASONABLE FOR THEM TO COMPLETE THAT.
YOU SAID EARLIER THAT YOU HAD CHECKED WITH HR TO DOUBLE CHECK THIS MET WITH OUR POLICY.
SO I TOOK THAT TO MEAN THAT OUR POLICY WAS THAT WE ALLOW FOR 45 DAYS.
MY QUESTION THEN IS, I THINK SHOULD WE BE REQUIRING CONTRACTORS TO FOLLOW THE SAME POLICY AS OUR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THEY'RE NEAR CHILDREN, REGARDLESS WHETHER THEY'RE A CONTRACTOR SUCH AS THIS OR AN EMPLOYEE.
FOR CONTINUING IT, I JUST WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE FURTHER AT THE STAFF LEVEL BECAUSE THAT DOES GIVE ME CONCERN HAVING A CONTRACTOR WITHIN A SCHOOL THAT POTENTIALLY, GOD FORBID, WOULD BE A CHILD MOLESTER AND THAT WE DON'T KNOW THAT FOR 45 DAYS, AND THAT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC.
SO THAT WOULD BE A BIG CONCERN AND THEN ALSO IF YOU'RE CONTINUING IT, I GET CONCERNED WHEN YOU'RE NEGOTIATING PRICE WHEN YOU WENT THROUGH A FORMAL PROCESS.
IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT THAT YOU GO BACK AND DISCUSS WITH SARAH [INAUDIBLE] WHETHER OR NOT YOUR RFP ALLOWS FOR NEGOTIATED PRICE SETTLEMENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE OTHER PARTY SUBMITTED A BID, CERTAINLY A SUBSTANTIALLY SMALLER BID.
AND THEN YOU GAVE DIFFERENT PRICES.
THE ONE THAT YOU SENT ME JUST NOW HAS 988,000 AND 830,000.
WAS THERE A DIFFERENCE THERE? I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE IN THE NUMBERS.
>> YES, MR. CHAIR. TRUSTEE GINGERY, YEAH, I'M SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION.
THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT COMES FROM THIS CONTRACT WILL ALSO INCLUDE WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES.
SO WE'RE ROLLING IN CLEANING OF THE TWO RESTROOMS AT THE SYNTHETIC STADIUM AND THE MACINTOSH STADIUM.
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SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE PRICE THAT I QUOTED RIGHT NOW.I CAN PROVIDE THAT PRICE MORE CONSISTENTLY.
THE HANDOUT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME JUST INCLUDES THE SCHOOL.
SO FORGIVE ME, THAT'S WHERE THAT DIFFERENCE IN PRICE IS.
THE FULL CONTRACT AMOUNT, WHICH IS THE 987550 THAT INCLUDES TWO ADDITIONAL RESTROOMS, THE SYNTHETIC AND THE MCINTOSH STADIUM.
I WILL DEFINITELY HAVE SOME TIME.
I CAN PROVIDE MORE OF THAT INFORMATION AS WELL AS THE RANKINGS TO ALL BOARD MEMBERS SO THAT THEY CAN REVIEW THAT.
>> I WANT A LITTLE DIRECTION HERE.
WE'VE BEEN AT THIS QUITE A WHILE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS, THEN LET'S JUST CONTINUE AND NOT TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON IT, WE'LL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'LL HAVE A VOTE.
>> MR. CEROVE TO TABLE THIS PROGRAM TILL THE NEXT MEETING.
>> THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING IN MAY?
>> I MOVED IN SECOND TO CONTINUE THIS TO MAY 8. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANYTHING DIRECTOR HARDER CAN PROVIDE US? I THINK YOU GOT YOUR ORDERS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
>> ANY OPPOSE. NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF SOLUTION TREE PURCHASE AGREEMENT.
>> MR. GREGORY, YOU BETTER BE AWAY.
I THINK MR. GREGORY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE SOLUTION TREE CONTRACT.
I'M HAPPY TO EXPLAIN IT IN MORE DETAIL. OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.
>> I CAN DO THIS REAL QUICK. THIS WAS ONE OF THE CONTRACTS THAT WAS ON THE LIST OF SR FUNDING THAT WAS GOING TO GO AWAY, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND TO REPLACE THIS.
I WAS JUST VERIFYING THAT THIS CONTRACT IS BEING PAID FOR STILL WITH SR FUNDS THAT ARE ABOUT TO RUN OUT ANYWAY, BUT WE'RE NOT USING GENERAL FUNDS, AND WE WILL NOT BE CONTINUING THIS CONTRACT AFTER THIS APPROVAL.
>> CORRECT BUT TRUSTEE GINGERY THE FUNDS THAT ARE BEING USED FOR THIS CONTRACT THAT'S BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT ARE SR FUNDS, WHICH, AS WE ALL KNOW ARE COMING TO A CLOSE, TECHNICALLY, BY THE VERY END OF DECEMBER, THIS FISCAL YEAR.
THAT WILL BE SR FUNDS ARE DIRECTLY BEING USED FOR THIS CONTRACT, NOT GENERAL BUDGET FUNDS.
>> IT IS OUR INTENT THIS PROCESS WILL END THIS YEAR.
>> A CLARIFICATION ON THAT, WHAT WE'VE DONE JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY QUICKLY IS WE HAVE REDUCED SIGNIFICANTLY SOLUTION TREE IS AN UMBRELLA ORGANIZATION THAT DOES SEVERAL THINGS.
FOR EXAMPLE, AS WE ALL KNOW, IT HAS SUPPORTED OUR PLC DEVELOPMENT.
THAT PART OF THE PLC DEVELOPMENT, THAT IS COMING TO A CLOSE IN JANUARY, IT'S CALLED THESE COACHING ACADEMIES.
THOSE WILL COME TO A CLOSE BECAUSE WE HAVE A SOLID BASE IN OUR DISTRICT NOW. THAT WILL BE ENDING.
WE ALSO USE SOLUTION TREE IN OTHER WAYS THOUGH THAT GO BEYOND PLCS.
FOR EXAMPLE, PART OF THIS CONTRACT IS CONTRACTING WITH SUPPORT AROUND OUR EVIDENCE BASED GRADING INITIATIVE FOR GRADES 6 THROUGH 12.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SUPPORT WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE.
IT COULD BE A DIFFERENT PROVIDER, THE SAME PROVIDER, BUT THE PROVIDERS AND SOLUTION TREE DO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE FUTURE OF HOW WE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT EVIDENCE BASED GRADING PART OF SOLUTION TREE.
BUT THE PLC COACHING ACADEMY PART WILL BE COMING TO AN END.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DR. CHRIS? IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT?
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SOLUTIONS TREES PUBLIC COMMENT.I WILL CLOSE THAT. WHAT IS THE WILL OF THE BOARD?
>> I MOVE TO APPROVE THE SOLUTION TREE PURCHASE ORDER NOT TO EXCEED $115,050 AS PRESENTED.
>> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED, THE SOLUTION TREE PURCHASE AGREEMENT NOT TO EXCEED $115,000 AS PRESENTED, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> CORRECT THEN. ANY COMMENTS? ANYBODY? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE?
MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[F. Consent Agenda]
>> MR. CHAIR, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11 AND 12.
>> IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN REORDERED.
>> YOU CAN JUST DO ONE THROUGH AND I'LL READ THEM OUT.
>> I STILL HAVE THE ENCROACHING.
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 1-9 AS PRESENTED.
>> SECOND MOVE AND SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT.
ITEM 1, APPROVAL OF STAFF CONSIDERATIONS AND REPORTS APRIL 2024.
ITEM 2, APPROVAL OF THE APRIL 2024 CHECK REGISTER.
ITEM 3, APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF MARCH 13, 2024 REGULAR MEETING.
FOUR, APPROVAL OF A PERMIT TO APPRAISE FOR A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT AT THE DISTRICT OWNED PARCEL ADJACENT ORCHARD PARK.
FIVE, APPROVAL OF CONTRACT WITH LANDSCAPING IN FOR DISTRICT LANDSCAPE SERVICES.
SIX, APPROVAL OF JADES HEATING AND PLUMBING PURCHASE ORDER TO REPLACE BATHROOM SINKS AT JACKSON HOLE HIGH SCHOOL.
SEVEN, APPROVAL OF TETON CAR PURCHASE ORDER FOR PARKING LOT MAINTENANCE.
EIGHT, APPROVAL OF BOARD MEMBER TRAVEL AND NINE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
>> ANY OPPOSED? WE WILL NOW GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT ITEMS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
[G. Communication]
>> [INAUDIBLE] JOHN, FROM THE PUBLIC EDUCATION.
I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH A VERY HAPPY NOTE TONIGHT.
TE DAN COUNTY SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM HAS JUST CLOSED.
STUDENTS WERE NOTIFIED TODAY,162 APPLICANTS, 68 INDIVIDUAL SCHOLARSHIPS, 163 INDIVIDUAL AWARDS TOTALING OVER ONE MILLION.
I'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU ALL NEXT WEDNESDAY, FROM 5:00-6:30 P.M AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
WE WILL BE CELEBRATING ALL OF THE STUDENTS MORE PIECE AND HE.
WE GOT A LOT OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK LAST YEAR ABOUT THE FORMER.
THE MEAN GRADE. I HOPE TO SEE THAT.
>> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO. COMMUNICATIONS TO THE BOARD.
WE HAD SOME LETTERS. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM.
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE BOARD.
ANYTHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER. KEITH.
>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
WHAT IS YOUR TIMELINE ON THE TENNIS PROPOSAL? IS THAT SOMETHING WE'LL BE LOOKING AT NEXT MEETING OR WHAT WERE YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> MY THOUGHTS ARE KEEP IT UNDER CONSIDERATION, AND WHEN WE REDO THAT PLAN THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER WHEN YOU WERE CHAIRMAN, THAT WE REORDER OUR LIST.
WE'VE GOT A LOT ON OUR PLATES RIGHT NOW WITH THE EXISTING PROJECTS.
[03:40:01]
FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. TRUSTEE ME.>> WELL, MR. CHAIR AND WHAT'S YOUR NAME THAT ROOT THAT HE SAID SUPERINTENDENT CHAIRMAN, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE'VE BEEN REALLY MOVING TOWARDS A LOT OF STEM TYPE OF WORK.
I WAS WONDERING IF WE HAVE A CLUE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT OUR MUSIC PROGRAMS AND OUR ART PROGRAMS AT THE NEXT MEETING?
>> THAT WOULD BE REALLY AWESOME.
MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE A LITTLE MUSIC.
>> MAY 8 BOARD MEETING WE'LL HAVE A RIDE REVIEW WITH OUR STUDENT SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS.
WE'LL SEE IF THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY OR POTENTIALLY JUNE, ALTHOUGH THE JUNE BOARD MEETINGS LIKE THE LAST WEEK OF SCHOOL.
WE'LL SEE THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER.
IT'S ALSO SOON BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE THREE WEEKS TILL THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
WE'RE A LITTLE OUT OF RHYTHM, BUT I LOVE THAT IDEA, AND I KNOW OUR FINE ARTS TEACHERS WILL BE THRILLED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
>> IT'LL BE GREAT TO SEE THEM.
>> REVIEW A MEETING. WE GOT THROUGH A LOT.
>> THANK YOU FOR KEEPING IT COOL.
[H. Advanced Planning]
THE AGENDA IS THERE.>> I MOVE THAT WE BE [INAUDIBLE]
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.