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FULL HOUSE. WE'LL, GO AHEAD AND CALL THE WEDNESDAY, JULY 19TH BOARD OF EDUCATION REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER.

[A. Call to Order]

MR. GINGERY.

ALLEGIANCE] OUR VISION STATEMENT AS A PREMIER DISTRICT, OUR VISION IS TO ENSURE EVERY STUDENT IS PREPARED TO SUCCEED IN AN EVER CHANGING WORLD.

UM, JUST A LITTLE, HOPE EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR POWERBALL TICKETS FOR THE BILLION DOLLAR LOTTERY.

I'M SURE JEN, JOHN WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU IF YOU ARE A WINNER TO DISCUSS THE GREAT WAYS YOU CAN PUT SOME OF THAT MONEY TO WORK FOR US.

WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE INTO THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

[B. Approval of the Agenda]

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING.

SECOND. IT'S MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED.

OKAY. THE AGENDA IS APPROVED.

DR. CHAPMAN. THANK YOU TRUSTEES.

MY CELEBRATIONS ARE LIMITED BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE WORST TIME OF YEAR FOR A SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE WE DON'T GET TO SEE THE STUDENTS IN THE CLASSROOM.

BUT IT IS ENJOYABLE TO SEE OUR STUDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BIKE SAFETY ON THE PATHWAYS.

AND OF COURSE I DON'T HAVE HARD CORE DATA.

HOWEVER, I SEE A LOT OF OUR STUDENTS OR STUDENTS IN GENERAL RIDING THEIR BICYCLES AND OBSERVING THE PATHWAY RULES AND SLOWING DOWN AND USING THEIR BELLS WHEN PASSING AND WEARING HELMETS.

AND MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS THAT I SEE TEND TO BE ADULTS.

SO FOR FOR THE PATHWAY USAGE, THAT'S MY CELEBRATION FOR THIS MONTH, IS THANKING THE STUDENTS FOR BEING SO CAREFUL AND COURTEOUS ON THE PATHWAYS AND I HOPE THAT EVERYONE STAYS SAFE.

THE NEXT ITEM IS A DISTRICT LEADERS REPORT.

[C. Superintendent's Report]

AND IF ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND ASKING OUR ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT, DR.

CHRIS, SOME HARD QUESTIONS SINCE THIS IS HIS FIRST BOARD MEETING FROM THIS POSITION.

AND SO WE SHOULD SET THE EXPECTATION.

ANYBODY FROM THE BOARD.

ANY QUESTIONS? I DID HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

I CANCEL. UH.

THE SWIM TEAM STARTS, THE GIRL SWIM TEAM STARTS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

IS THE REC CENTER POOL OPEN? THEY HAVE NOT INDICATED TO ME THAT WASN'T GOING TO.

OKAY. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE WERE GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE A SWIM TEAM THIS YEAR IF THE REC CENTER WAS NOT AFFECTED BY ANY OF THE CONSTRUCTION, ISN'T IT? IT SHOULD BE FINE. IT'S OPEN.

DOES IT OPEN? OKAY, GREAT.

SO, YEAH, JIM'S ON THE BOARD OF PARKS AND REC.

YEAH, PERFECT. THANK YOU.

WE'RE HAPPY. I'M HAPPY.

UH DEANNA.

BROCK ACHIEVEMENT CENTER.

THIS WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE SCHEMATICS.

YES. IF WE'RE MOVING ALONG, I'M GOING TO HAVE SCHEMATICS READY FOR US TO GET A GLIMPSE OF IT AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR.

TRUSTEES. YES? WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY PROGRAM IN DESIGN, SO I'LL KIND OF SAY A PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT PACKAGE THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY SUBMITTED.

SO WE'RE DOING AN INTERNAL REVIEW OF THAT, AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT POTENTIALLY WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE FOR YOU IN SOME FORM AT THE NEXT MEETING.

IT MIGHT NOT BE A FULL SCHEMATIC DESIGN PACKAGE, BUT IT'LL DEFINITELY BE AN UPDATE ON THE IDEA OF PHASING THE PROJECT AND LOOKING AT SOME OPTIONS TO MOVE FORWARD. AND IN THAT, WILL WE GET A COST ESTIMATE? MR. CHAIR? NO, NOT AT THIS PRELIMINARY DESIGN.

THERE WILL NOT BE A FULL COST ESTIMATE.

WILL THERE BE A COST ESTIMATE? MR. CHAIR, I WILL REQUEST THAT.

THANK YOU. IS THAT A FORMAL TERM?

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GOOD. NEXT.

OKAY. OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE EDUCATIONAL MOMENT.

AND AGAIN, WE WELCOME HARD QUESTIONS FOR DR.

CRISP AND THE TIME HE UNDERSTOOD IT WAS 60S.

SHOULD WE START THE TIMER NOW? YES. YES. I'LL BE QUICK.

ONE MOMENT.

OKAY. TRUSTEES, I GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TWO PROGRAMS VERY QUICKLY TONIGHT THAT ARE EXCITING AND BOTH REQUIRE APPLICATIONS FROM TCSD AND BOTH REQUIRED US TO BE ACCEPTED.

SO BOTH PROGRAMS WERE NOT A GUARANTEE.

FIRST PROGRAM IS SOMETHING CALLED A RIDE PROGRAM.

IF YOU GO ON THE GOVERNOR'S SITE, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THIS PROGRAM.

THIS IS A JOINT PROGRAM THAT WE APPLIED FOR FROM THE WDE, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, THE SCHOOL BOARD, STATE SCHOOL BOARD HAVE ALL COME TOGETHER AND SUPPORTED HAVING SCHOOL DISTRICTS LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE WAYS FOR STUDENTS TO PROGRESS THROUGH DISTRICTS, IN PARTICULAR PERSONALIZED LEARNING PATHWAYS AND ALSO COMPETENCY BASED LEARNING.

WE HAVE APPLIED WERE AWARDED THIS GRANT SUPPORT FOR THOSE THREE AGENCIES TO SUPPORT OUR WORK.

WE'RE LOOKING AND EXPLORING SOME DIFFERENT IDEAS.

IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, ANDREA.

WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME SPECIFIC IDEAS AROUND HOW STUDENTS CAN DEMONSTRATE LEARNING IN DIFFERENT WAYS BEYOND SIMPLE CARNEGIE UNIT SEAT TIME LEARNING. THAT'S ONE OF THE CORE FOCUSES OF THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY THE RIGOR THAT THEY'RE ASKING STUDENTS TO LEARN OR MINIMIZE WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR GRADUATION STANDARDS.

WHAT IT'S TRYING TO DO IS RETHINK SOME MODELS FOR STUDENTS WHO AREN'T THAT TRADITIONAL FOUR YEAR FOR FOUR YEAR COLLEGE BOUND STUDENT.

IN PARTICULAR A BIG FOCUS OF THIS PROGRAM IS HOW WE CAN REFRESH AND REVITALIZE MAYBE SOME CTE PROGRAMING IN OUR DISTRICT.

SO WE HAVE APPLIED AND AGAIN, WE'RE AWARDED THIS THE PRESS RELEASE CAME OUT TODAY ACROSS THE STATE.

WE'RE ONE OF NINE DISTRICTS THAT WERE GRANTED THIS OPPORTUNITY, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO DIVING INTO THIS PROGRAM.

THIS WILL TARGET SPECIFICALLY SUMMIT AND THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THE SECONDARY REALM.

THE NEXT PROGRAM I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT IS AND AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF A LONG SUMMARY OF WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED.

YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE. ANDRE IS OUR WE APPLIED TO THE WYOMING TEACHER APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.

THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM IN THE STATE, I BELIEVE WE'RE ONE OF THREE DISTRICTS IN THE STATE ONLY THAT WERE GRANTED THIS.

OUR APPLICATION WAS BASED OFF EMPLOYMENT NEED LACK OF TEACHERS IN CERTAIN AREAS, SPECIAL SPECIALIZED AREAS IN PARTICULAR.

AND SO THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF AND OUR DISTRICT TO APPLY, WHICH THEY HAVE.

YOU HAVE THE LIST OF STAFF IN FRONT OF YOU WHO WERE GRANTED THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THEY WILL BE PAIRED WITH A MENTOR TEACHER IN OUR DISTRICT FOR THE YEAR.

THAT WILL BE THEIR ROLE TO LEARN THAT PARTICULAR TEACHING OCCUPATION WITH THAT MENTOR.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAD A SPECIAL ED PARA AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, THAT PARTICULAR PARA WILL WORK WITH A MENTOR TEACHER.

THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE OVER TO CULTURE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND WORK WITH A CERTIFIED TEACHER.

THE STATE IS PROVIDING THE FUNDS, SO THE WDE IS PROVIDING THE FUNDS TO HELP SUPPORT THIS.

THIS WILL PAY FOR THE CREDENTIAL OF THE INDIVIDUAL AND ALSO THE INDIVIDUAL CAN APPLY FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR ALSO COLLEGE CREDIT IN ORDER TO GET THAT BACHELOR'S DEGREE TO QUALIFY FOR A TEACHING CERTIFICATE.

SO IT IS A TRUE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.

WE'RE TRAINING PEOPLE BOOTS ON THE GROUND WITH A MENTOR TEACHER IN OUR DISTRICT.

SO IT'S A GREAT WAY TO ALSO TRY TO FILL SOME OF THOSE HIGH NEED GAP AREAS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DISTRICT.

FOR EXAMPLE, LIFE SKILLS, SPECIAL EDUCATION.

DL THESE ARE HIGH NEEDS AREAS NOT ONLY IN OUR DISTRICT, BUT DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE AND COUNTRY.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM IN OUR DISTRICT.

I THINK IT HAS SOME GREAT POTENTIAL TO LEVERAGE SOME EXISTING PERSONNEL IN OUR DISTRICT AND REALLY SET THEM UP NICELY IN THE CERTIFIED TEACHING REALM IF THEY CHOOSE TO CONTINUE IN THAT PROFESSION.

QUESTIONS. YES, I KNOW THIS IS AIMED PROBABLY AT A NON COLLEGE BOUND KIDS, BUT I COULD SEE THIS AS A POSSIBLE COUNTER TO AI KIND OF TRAINING WHERE THEY JUST GO OUT, GET INFORMATION AND PLUG INTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S.

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GOALS FOR EDUCATION.

IF THEY CAN SET THEIR OWN GOALS, SET THEIR OWN ESPECIALLY GOALS FOR THINGS THEY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT.

SEEMS TO ME A GREAT COUNTERBALANCE TO CHAT.

ARE YOU ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE FIRST PROGRAM? THE RIGHT THE RIGHT PROGRAM? YEAH. I THINK ONE OF THE SPECIFIC GOALS IS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT DIFFERENT WAYS FOR STUDENTS TO STILL DEMONSTRATE THEIR LEARNING.

BUT REALLY COUNTER THE TRADITIONAL CARNEGIE UNIT REQUIREMENT, ESPECIALLY IF THEY CAN SET THEIR GOALS FOR INFORMATION AND RESEARCH AND EDUCATION, NOT JUST SKILLS, BUT THEY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT SOMETHING.

IT SEEMS TO ME PUTTING EDUCATION IN THE HANDS OF THE KID.

SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU INVEST HERE AND IF THEY BUY INTO THAT, IT'S A GREAT COUNTER TO THE PLUGGING INTO THE BIG AI MACHINE.

I HAVE HOPES FOR IT.

FOR THE QUESTION. YES, THERE ARE TWO QUESTIONS ON THE RIDE.

ONE, DOES IT COME WITH MONEY? AND IF SO, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR THAT MONEY? YES, THE RIDE PROGRAM DOES COME WITH MONEY.

IT'S LIMITED MONEY.

I THINK IT'S AROUND $30,000, 30 TO $35,000 TOTAL.

AND IT REALLY GOES TO PAY FOR INDIVIDUALS TO HELP US SUPPORT AND INVESTIGATE NEW MODELS THAT ARE COMPETENCY BASED LEARNING VERSUS CREDIT BASED LEARNING. SO IT'S STATE SUPPORT TO HELP US LOOK AT DIFFERENT MODELS THAT WE'LL BE DOING MAYBE SOME SPECIAL.

CONTRACTS WITH ALREADY EXISTING EMPLOYEES TO PAY THEM A LITTLE STIPEND TO BE ON A COMMITTEE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING? AND. WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT THROUGH THE STIPEND PIECE YET, MR. GINGERY. WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH ONE ORGANIZATION THAT THE STATE HAS CONTRACTED WITH THAT HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT.

YES. ON THE OTHER ONE.

ON THE TEACHER ONE.

WHY IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN JUST DOING YOUR NORMAL STUDENT TEACHING? WHY? BECAUSE I WOULD ASSUME ALL THESE FOLKS ARE WORKING TOWARD THEIR TEACHING DEGREE.

THEY'RE GOING TO STUDENT TEACH ANYWAY.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION.

THAT'S A REALLY GREAT QUESTION.

SO THE APPRENTICESHIP.

THINK ABOUT IT, I THINK IS A MUCH MORE LONG TERM, MUCH MORE IN DEPTH PROCESS WITH STUDENT TEACHING.

TYPICALLY, SOMEONE WOULD COME TO US WHILE THEY'RE IN A CURRENT UNIVERSITY.

LET'S SAY THEY'RE GOING TO UNIVERSITY OF WYOMING.

WE GET REQUESTS FOR THAT.

THEY'LL COME AND BE A STUDENT TEACHER WITH US FOR A SEMESTER, BUT THAT'S COMPLETELY ON THEM TO SOME DEGREE.

I MEAN, YOU'RE IN A SCHOOL.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO COME HERE.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO FIND A PARTNERING TEACHER THAT'S ON THE INSTITUTION IN TERMS OF A IN THAT SYSTEM.

IN THIS SYSTEM, THE GOAL IS TO FIND PEOPLE WITHIN YOUR ORGANIZATION WHO WANT TO ASPIRE TO DO MORE, WHO WANT TO GET THAT CERTIFICATION OR AND THAT BACHELOR'S DEGREE. SOME OF THOSE FOLKS ALREADY HAVE A BACHELOR'S, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE CERTIFICATION.

SO WHAT THIS ALLOWS THEM TO DO IS STAY IN OUR DISTRICT, STAY EMPLOYED.

WE GET COMPENSATED TO BACKFILL BEHIND THEM WITH THIS MONEY THAT THEY'RE GIVEN AS WELL.

SO WE CAN SUPPORT, SAY, SOMEONE WHO'S FROM A PARA JOB TO A TO AN APPRENTICESHIP.

WE CAN STILL SUPPORT BEHIND THEM AND HIRE BEHIND THEM.

NOW THEY ARE PARTNERED WITH THAT MENTOR TEACHER ALL YEAR AS OPPOSED TO A SEMESTER OR LET'S SAY A TEN WEEK STINT THAT A STUDENT TEACHER WOULD BE.

SO IT'S A MUCH MORE IN DEPTH PIECE.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF IT BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTUALLY IN THE WEEDS OF THE WORK FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME VERSUS FINDING A DISTRICT THAT WILL TAKE YOU MAKING ARRANGEMENTS TO GO THERE AND HOPING TO FIND A PARTNER TEACHER THAT MATCHES YOUR SKILLS.

I'M JUST GOING TO ADD ONE THING IN THE PAST, FOR OUR PARAS THAT ARE WORKING ON THEIR TEACHER LICENSING, WHEN THEY GOT TO THEIR STUDENT TEACHER COMPONENT, THEY HAD TO QUIT THEIR JOB. SO THEY LOSE THEIR BENEFITS, THEY LOSE THEIR PAY AND THAT HAS PREVENTED A LOT OF REALLY QUALITY.

HARRIS FROM MOVING ON TO THAT NEXT STEP.

SO THIS WAY THEY CAN KEEP THEIR JOB, KEEP THEIR BENEFITS.

THEY GET ON THE JOB TRAINING.

THEY HAVE TO PASS CERTAIN COMPETENCIES, AND THE DISTRICT GETS TO THE MONEY TO PAY THEM AS WELL AS THEIR BACKFILL.

AND THE STATE IS PAYING FOR THEIR COURSEWORK AS WELL.

SO IT'S A REALLY FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES THAT WANT TO BECOME A CERTIFIED TEACHER.

MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS A GRANT.

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AND HOW MUCH DID WE GET? THIS IS FROM THE WYOMING DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

THEY'RE USING LEFTOVER FUNDING FROM THE ESSER.

SO WE HAVE TO EXPEND IT BY SEPTEMBER 2024, AND ALL FUNDS HAVE TO BE PAID OUT BY DECEMBER 2024.

AND OUR TOTAL THERE ARE THREE DISTRICTS THAT WERE SELECTED.

THEY HAD $3 MILLION TO WORK WITH.

OUR TOTAL IS ABOUT 1.8 MILLION.

YES. CHAIR SCARLETT, DR.

CRISP, IS GEAR FUNDING, IS THAT THE ESSER? WHAT DOES THAT STAND FOR? SO THANK YOU.

I'LL TAKE THIS ONE. CHAIR SCARLETT TRUSTEE MEAD GEER FUNDING IS THE GOVERNOR'S.

IT'S FROM ESSER FUNDING AND THE GOVERNOR WAS ALLOTTED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDING AND I BELIEVE IT STOOD FOR.

GET THE GOVERNOR'S EDUCATIONAL ECONOMIC RELIEF OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

YOU MIGHT RECALL YOU HEARD THAT WORD BEFORE.

WE USED A MAJORITY OF THE FUNDING THROUGH COVID TO BUY THE DEVICES FOR STUDENTS AND TO ENSURE CONNECTIVITY AND TRAINING FOR OUR STAFF THAT AND OUR STUDENTS THAT THEY COULD ACCESS THINGS REMOTELY.

SO I THINK WE'RE FINISHING UP ON THE FUNDING FROM ESSER AND LOOKING AT CREATIVE WAYS OF SPENDING IT.

SO WE'RE DELIGHTED TO PARTICIPATE IN BOTH OF THESE.

I LIKE IT BECAUSE OF THE NOT JUST RECRUITMENT, BUT RETENTION ASPECTS OF IT.

WE CAN KEEP MORE PEOPLE IN OUR DISTRICT, ALL THE BETTER.

THE MENTORS ARE VERY EXCITED TO WORK WITH THE MENTEES TO NEXT YEAR, SO THAT'LL BE A NICE CULTURAL PIECE IN THE SCHOOLS.

GREAT. OTHER QUESTIONS.

LET'S SEE. OKAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THAT CONCLUDES THE SUPERINTENDENT'S REPORT.

THANK YOU. NICE JOB.

YOU MENTIONED THE SADDEST PART OF THE YEAR AT THE START OF YOUR DR.

CHAPMAN, YOU MENTIONED THIS IS THE SADDEST PART OF THE YEAR BECAUSE STUDENTS.

WELL, THIS IS KRISTIN'S HAPPIEST PART OF THE YEAR.

WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, THE BEST PART OF THE YEAR.

I'M SORRY TO SEE HER. I JUST WANTED TO PROVE TONIGHT THAT'S THE HAPPIEST.

TRUSTEE ZUNG. OH, NO.

THE BUDGET. OKAY.

[D. Reports and Items for Discussion]

THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.

SO THE WAY THAT I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS TONIGHT, WE'LL JUST REVIEW THIS YEAR TO DATE, THE FISCAL YEAR 23 WILL DO A FINAL REVIEW FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN ONCE WE GET INTO THE BUDGET HEARING, WE'LL REVIEW IN DEPTH THE BUDGET AMENDMENT AND THE FISCAL YEAR 24 BUDGET.

SO WE ENDED THIS YEAR AT ABOUT 103% IN SALARIES AND BENEFITS.

AND THIS WAS A CULMINATION OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE TYPICALLY IN PAST YEARS ARE AROUND 101% OF OUR BUDGET FOR SALARIES AND BENEFITS.

IT WAS A LITTLE HIGHER THIS YEAR FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS, AND WE'LL SEE THIS IN THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, THE IMPACT OF THE JULY AND AUGUST INSURANCE INCREASE TOO.

SO WHEN WE WHEN WE SWITCH OVER TO CIGNA, THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CONTRACTS THAT ARE TEN MONTH CONTRACTS, 12 MONTH CONTRACTS, BUT THEY'RE PAID OUT IN JUNE FOR JULY AND AUGUST BECAUSE OUR TEACHER CONTRACTS START SEPTEMBER 1ST.

SO THOSE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE INSURANCE ARE MADE IN JUNE FOR THOSE JULY AND AUGUST MONTHS.

AND THE IMPACT OF THE NEW INSURANCE CHANGE WAS ABOUT 390,000 FOR THOSE TWO MONTHS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IN A TYPICAL YEAR.

IF WE SEE A SMALL INCREASE OF 3% OR 6%, THAT DOESN'T THROW OUR END OF YEAR NUMBERS OFF DRAMATICALLY.

BUT THIS YEAR, BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING A 26% INCREASE IN INSURANCE COSTS, IT DID HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IN OUR JUNE PAYROLL POSTED.

SO THAT WAS PART OF IT.

WE ALSO HAD A OUR SUBSTITUTE COSTS ARE BUDGETED.

OUR BUDGETED SUBSTITUTE COSTS WERE 29529 AND WE SPENT 641198 THIS YEAR, WHICH IS OVER BY $350,669.

THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE AND I'VE BEEN BRAINSTORMING WAYS TO REDUCE THAT AND AND IMPACT THAT FOR NEXT YEAR AS WELL AS AND IN A LOT OF THAT JUST HAS TO HAS TO GO INTO TRAINING FOR ADMINISTRATORS ON HOW TO REVIEW PTO REQUESTS. WHAT'S TOO MUCH? HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN YOU HAVE ABSENT FROM YOUR BUILDING PLANNED IN ADVANCE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU GET LAST MINUTE REQUESTS?

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SO WE'LL DO SOME TRAINING IN THE FALL FOR ADMINISTRATORS AROUND SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND MAYBE SET SOME PAR VALUES OF WHAT'S REASONABLE AND WHAT'S NOT REASONABLE. AND THEN WE ALSO HAD SOME OTHER REDUCED COSTS FOR FRONTEND TIME CARDS, WHICH I'VE ALREADY SENT A MESSAGE THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY FRONTEND TIME CARDS THIS YEAR.

OCCASIONALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS AN ADMINISTRATOR WILL FUND THAT.

THEY'LL DO A TIME CARD FOR SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS TO PUT IN EXTRA HOURS FOR WHATEVER REASONS.

AND WE'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT LOOSE ON THAT PRACTICE AND I THINK IT'S GOTTEN A LITTLE OUT OF HAND.

SO WE'LL WE'LL TIGHTEN UP ON THAT NEXT YEAR.

AND THEN ALSO WHEN WE HIRE NEW STAFF IN, MAYBE THEY COME WITH THE SEVEN YEARS OF EXPERIENCE OF OUT OF STATE OR IF WE'RE HIRING A TEACHER FROM ANOTHER AREA THAT CAN ALSO IMPACT OUR BUDGETED NUMBERS.

SO MOVING ON TO OPERATIONAL EXPENDITURES, WITHOUT THE TECH PURCHASE, THE TECH COACH PURCHASE PUT US OVER 118%.

BUT IF WE TAKE THAT OUT, WE ACTUALLY CAME IN AT 98% OF OUR OPERATIONAL EXPENDITURES, WHICH IS GREAT NEWS.

THE QUESTIONS FOR KRISTEN.

I KNOW. THAT'S IT FOR THE BUDGET UPDATE.

WE'LL GET TO THE OTHER ITEMS AFTER THE OTHER STUFF.

UM OTHER REPORTS.

THANK YOU. THE FIRST ITEM IS [INAUDIBLE] IS GOING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE HOUSING PROJECT BY JACKSON MIDDLE SCHOOL.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR.

TRUSTEES. SO TO START, I WILL START WITH SCHEDULE ON OUR HOUSING PROJECT.

SO WE HAVE RECEIVED OUR SCHEMATIC DESIGN PACKAGE AND PRICING PACKAGE.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE COST ESTIMATE FOR CONSTRUCTION CAME IN RIGHT WHERE WE WERE EXPECTING IT TO BE AND WHAT WE INCLUDED IN OUR APPLICATION.

SO IT'S STILL VERY PRELIMINARY, BUT WE ARE HAPPY WITH THE DESIGN AND THE PRICING PACKAGE.

NOW, ALSO I'M GOING TO PREFACE THIS FOR KRISTEN AND CHARLOTTE, BECAUSE I WAS REVIEWING OUR OVERALL PROJECT BUDGET AND I WAS GOING TO REPORT IF WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE INTEREST PAYMENTS FOR THE LOAN AND THEN ALSO SOME ADVERTISING COSTS THAT WE HAD TO GET THIS PROJECT GOING, THAT WE WERE APPROXIMATELY $1.6 MILLION OVER BUDGET WITH OUR OVERALL BUDGET.

BUT I WAS JUST REVIEWING THE COST ESTIMATE AND THEY INCLUDED A CONSTRUCTION CONTINGENCY IN THEIR ESTIMATE ABOUT $1.2 MILLION.

SO THE GOOD NEWS IS WE ARE RIGHT ON TRACK WITH BUDGET.

WITH THE SCHEDULE, WE ARE NAVIGATING SOME UNCERTAINTY WITH THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THE PROJECT AND THAT STEMMED FROM WE HAD A PRELIMINARY PRE-APPLICATION MEETING WITH THE TOWN OF JACKSON PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND WE WENT IN THERE ASSUMING BECAUSE THIS IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE A REQUIREMENT TO GO THROUGH ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, THAT WE BASICALLY WOULD HAVE A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING AND THEN GO STRAIGHT TO A BUILDING PERMIT.

BUT STAFF, STAFF WAS A LITTLE BIT THEY BASICALLY WANTED TO REVISIT IT IS WHAT THEY SAID INTERNALLY AND KIND OF CHECK WITHIN THEIR OWN STAFF TO BEFORE THEY WOULD COMMIT TO THAT.

WHAT WILL BE WHAT THAT APPLICATION PROCESS WILL LOOK LIKE.

AND I BRING THIS UP ONLY BECAUSE OF THAT UNCERTAINTY.

IF THEY WERE TO REQUIRE A PRE APP OR A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT APPLICATION, THAT CAN BE UP TO FIVE MONTHS.

SO THAT'S A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.

SO I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO RAISE BIG ALARM BELLS, BUT THERE'S SOME UNCERTAINTY THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH.

AND I WILL WE WILL KEEP EVERYBODY UPDATED ON WHERE THAT LANDS.

AND WITH THAT, THAT IS MY UPDATE AND I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS.

YES. WE GET TO SEE THE SCHEMATICS SOMETIME? MR. CHAIR, TRUSTEE, ABSOLUTELY.

I WILL WORK WITH CHARLOTTE AND WE CAN SUBMIT THE PACKAGE TO YOU FOR REVIEW.

UM, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

SINCE THESE ARE [INAUDIBLE] IS THERE.

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WHY ARE WE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS? DO WE IS THIS OUT OF A COURTESY OR DO WE HAVE TO DO..

WHEN YOU AGREE TO BE ON THE [INAUDIBLE], YOU AGREED TO GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS.

THEY MAY SIGN AN AGREEMENT.

WHEN WE GOT ON THE SPEC THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS.

WHAT DEANNA IS TALKING ABOUT IS THE TOWN PASSED A RULE TO TRY TO SPEED UP AFFORDABLE HOUSING BY SAYING YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS IF YOU WERE BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I AM GUESSING THEY'RE A LITTLE HESITANT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TRULY MATCHING THEIR DEFINITION.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHY.

SO THAT'S A POSITIVE SIGN THAT THEY WANT TO GO BACK AND LOOK THIS OVER BECAUSE I'M GUESSING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TRULY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND READ THEIR DEFINITION A LITTLE BIT AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL COME AROUND.

IF NOT, YOU KNOW, YOU GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

AND SO THEY'RE TRYING.

I MEAN, THE TOWN OF JACKSON DID PASS THIS RULE TO TRY TO SPEED EVERYTHING UP FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO SO THERE IS A RULE TO POTENTIALLY HELP US IF WE CAN MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THAT RULE.

SO I THINK IT'S POSITIVE THAT THEY'RE THEY DIDN'T JUST SAY NO AND THEY'RE STILL LOOKING AT IT.

YEAH. MISTER CHAIRMAN.

TRUSTEE GINGERY. I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT.

AND I THINK BECAUSE IT'S A NEW RULE, I THINK MAYBE THAT WAS PART OF THEIR HESITATION.

SO WE'RE HOPING THEY SAY THAT IT'S POSITIVE AND IT WILL WORK ITSELF OUT AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THE EXPEDITED PROCESS.

WELL, I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT INTEREST PAYMENTS.

THANK YOU. CURIOUS QUESTION, MR. CHAIR. YES. WHAT ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS NOT TECHNICALLY AFFORDABLE? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULE IS.

SO THE MINUTE SHE SAID THAT, I WAS THINKING TOMORROW MORNING, I'LL FIGURE I WAS GOING TO PULL UP THE RULE BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, WELL, I BET YOU THERE'S SOME GLITCH THERE THAT SOMEBODY HAS POINTED OUT.

I'M GUESSING. UM, MR. CHAIR AND TRUSTEE ABRAMS. I THINK I MAY BE ABLE TO SHARE SHED A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT ON THAT.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT HAS TO DO WITH DEED RESTRICTING.

AND SO THEY WERE QUESTIONING US, WILL THESE BE DEED RESTRICTED HOUSING UNITS? AND WE DISCUSSED HOW OUR INTENT WAS THEY WOULD BE FOR EMPLOYEES ONLY.

AND SO WE DISCUSSED JUST THAT.

WOULD OUR DEFINITION COULD WE ADOPT BASICALLY THE TOWN'S DEFINITION OF DEED RESTRICTED RENTAL HOUSING, DEED RESTRICTED? WE COULD SAY THAT ALL OF THESE WILL BE RENTALS FOR SCHOOL DISTRICT EMPLOYEES.

CHARLOTTE'S GOING TO ENLIGHTEN YOU, MR. CHAIR. TRUSTEE GINGERY THAT IS CORRECT.

AND I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO OBTAIN THEIR DOCUMENTATION FORMS AROUND WHAT IS DEED RESTRICTED, WHAT IS AFFORDABLE, WHAT IS WORKFORCE, AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO FIT WITHIN THOSE DEFINITIONS BECAUSE AS MR. GINGERY POINTED OUT, WE THE DISTRICT SIGNED A DOCUMENT SAYING WE WOULD FOLLOW THE TOWN'S EXPEDITED HOUSING PROCESS.

AND I THINK IT'S JUST WORKING THROUGH EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE INDEED BEING EXPECTED TO MEET THE EXPEDITED PROCESS, RECOGNIZING THAT WE WILL THESE WILL BE DEED RESTRICTED EMPLOYEE HOUSING UNITS FOR TETON COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT EMPLOYEES.

RIGHT. I HAVE A QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

ARE WE GOING TO. PUT THE RIGHT LANGUAGE IN SO THE DISTRICT COULD SELL THESE CONDOMINIUMS OR KEEP THEM AS RENTALS. JUST SO WE HAVE OPTIONS.

AND MR. CHAIR, I DID ASK THAT QUESTION DURING THE PRE APP MEETING, AND THERE IS A PROCESS THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH IF AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, A FUTURE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO GO FROM RENTAL TO FOR SALE, OR EVEN IF THIS BOARD WANTED TO DO THAT.

NOW THERE'S THERE IS A PROCESS THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.

WE WOULD JUST NEED TO ENSURE THAT IF THEY ARE FORCED, IF THEIR SALE UNITS, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR MORE OF A CONDO TOWNHOUSE TYPE PROJECT VERSUS A RENTAL PROJECT.

SO THAT QUESTION DID COME UP AND I WAS ASSURED THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THIS BOARD COULD DO NOW OR SOMEDAY IN THE FUTURE.

I LIKE OPTIONS. YEAH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIR AND TRUSTEES, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A LETTER TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE TOWN OF JACKSON TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS UPDATING OUR LOCALLY ELECTED OFFICIALS ON THE SCHOOL FACILITIES WORK.

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AND SO THAT DRAFT IS BEFORE YOU FOR CHAIRMAN SCARLETT SIGNATURE.

AND THE INTENT HERE IS JUST TO KEEP EVERYBODY UP TO DATE ON WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARD AND ALSO TO REMIND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING DISCUSSED, WHILE EXCITING AND WILL CERTAINLY MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, WE ALSO NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS APPROPRIATE TO SUPPORT THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED AND THAT A SCHOOL PARCEL MUST BE INSISTED UPON DURING THESE CONVERSATIONS.

BECAUSE AS IT STANDS WITH THE CURRENT FACILITIES AND THE LENGTH OF TIME IT TAKES TO GET ANY CHANGE IN THE SCHOOL FACILITIES OR STATE CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT FOR SCHOOL FACILITIES, I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT AND INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS WILL BE QUICKLY OVERWHELMED BY NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT GOT US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

WE HAVE TEN UNITS, 12 UNITS, 15 UNITS.

IT'S ALL VERY EXCITING AND WELCOME.

BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENTS, SUCH AS NORTHERN SOUTH PARK, EVEN DULUTH RIGHT BEHIND US HERE WILL HAVE 295 BEDROOMS. THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR A LOT OF CHILDREN.

AND NORTHERN SOUTH PARK, WITH THE NUMBER OF ACREAGE AND AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE GOING IN THERE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A PARCEL FOR AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FOR SURE.

SO THAT'S THE INTENT OF THIS LETTER AND ANY FEEDBACK IS WELCOME.

FOR US TO PREPARE FOR THE CHAIRMAN'S SIGNATURE.

THIS IS MR. CHAIR. YES. UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS A WELL WORDED LETTER, AND IT CERTAINLY, UM, YOU KNOW, GAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO PUT OUT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH EVERY HOUSE BUILT OR EVERY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR A LOT MORE CHILDREN.

THANK YOU. SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT.

THANK YOU.

TRUSTEES IS THE NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE EMERGENCY RULES THAT WERE ADOPTED BY THE UH, STATE THE SCHOOL FACILITIES COMMISSION, WHICH IS A COMPONENT OF THE STATE CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT.

AND AS YOU'RE AWARE, THEY HAD A MEETING ON JUNE 6TH AND SEVENTH TO ADOPT EMERGENCY RULES.

THEN THEY RE- ADOPTED THOSE EMERGENCY RULES ON JUNE 27TH.

AND THEN THE SELECT COMMITTEE MET ON JUNE 28TH AND 29TH, THE SAME MONTH.

AND THE SELECT COMMITTEE REQUESTED THAT SCHOOL DISTRICTS PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE IN DETAIL ON THESE EMERGENCY RULES.

AND SO THIS LETTER IS INTENDED TO SHED LIGHT ON WHAT OUR CONCERNS ARE WITH THOSE EMERGENCY RULES.

I THINK THE MOST CRITICAL NATURE OF ALL OF THESE IS THAT THE LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS ARE BEST EQUIPPED TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, ABOUT THEIR FACILITY NEEDS.

AND THROUGH THESE EMERGENCY RULES, THE AUTHORITY REALLY RESTS WITH THE COMMISSION AND AS OPPOSED TO WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

AND THAT'S CONCERNING BECAUSE SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH THESE REPORTS THAT THEY HAD COMMISSIONED ARE NOT REFLECTIVE OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING ON THE GROUND AND WHAT THE NEEDS ARE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

SO THIS IS FAIRLY DETAILED AND LENGTHY, BUT IT WAS INTENDED TO BE THAT WAY.

SO THERE ARE OTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO MAKE OR ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THIS.

IT'S FAIRLY.

IT'S FAIRLY SPECIFIC AND IT WAS INTENDED TO BE THE THAT WAY BECAUSE OF THE REQUEST FROM THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON SCHOOL FACILITIES.

UM. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A MEETING TODAY.

THE SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A MEETING TODAY IN CASPER, AND THAT GOT POSTPONED OFFICIALLY.

FINALLY, ON MONDAY TO NOVEMBER FIRST AND SECOND, WHERE THEY WILL ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

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CORRECT.

ALSO POSTED ON THE AGENDA IS THE INITIAL LETTER TO THE SCHOOL.

THE COMMISSION OF SCHOOL FACILITIES.

YOU'LL RECALL TRUSTEES THAT ON JUNE 14TH.

THIS BOARD MADE A FINDING THAT THE FACILITIES WERE NOT ADEQUATE TO SUPPORT THE EDUCATIONAL NEEDS OF OUR STUDENTS AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE. NOR DID THEY MEET THE SAFETY GUIDELINES THAT ARE EXPECTED BY THE STATE.

ACCORDING TO THE EMERGENCY RULES WE WERE TO THE BOARD IS TO MAKE THAT FINDING AND THEN IMMEDIATELY THE SUPERINTENDENT IS TO NOTIFY THE COMMISSION IN WRITING.

IT DID SO ON JUNE THE 15TH, AND THEN THEY READOPTED THOSE RULES ON JUNE 26TH.

SO AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION AND TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS AS EXPECTED, PLUS THE STATUTE ACTUALLY CHANGED IN THE RE-ADOPTION OF THE EMERGENCY RULE.

SO THIS LETTER WAS SUBMITTED RIGHT AWAY AS REQUIRED BY THAT.

AND AS IT SITS, THERE WAS A BIG RUSH FOR THIS TO BE SUBMITTED AND WE'VE HAD NO FEEDBACK ON IT.

AND NOW WITH THE DELAY FOR THEIR NEXT MEETING UNTIL NOVEMBER, THE POTENTIAL OF FUNDING THIS YEAR IS THAT WINDOW IS REALLY COMING QUICKLY TO A CLOSE.

AND SO IT'S REALLY DISAPPOINTING TO SEE THE BUREAUCRATIC PROCESS IS HOLDING UP OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS AND TETON COUNTY AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT EQUITABLE COMPARED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE.

AND FUNDING WAS ALLOCATED LAST YEAR AT $100 MILLION.

IT WAS THE INTENT OF THE OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON SCHOOL FACILITIES IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022 TO ALLOCATE THAT FUNDING TO TETON COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR A BUS, BARN AND FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE BROCK ACHIEVEMENT CENTER.

AND FROM THAT MOMENT UNTIL NOW, THAT FUNDING IS IS THERE, IT'S 100 MILLION IS THERE.

HOWEVER, THE NAMES OF THE DISTRICTS WERE AND THE PROJECTS WERE PULLED OUT.

AND NOW WAITING UNTIL NOVEMBER ESSENTIALLY MEANS NO SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL GET ANY FUNDING FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR.

SO IT'S BEEN QUITE FRUSTRATING.

BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO OUR BEST TO TO ADVOCATE FOR OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.

MR. CHAIRMAN? YES.

JUST A QUESTION. TRUSTEE MEAD.

I KNOW YOU AND SUPERINTENDENT WENT WAS THERE ANY WHAT WAS THE TONE AND THE DISCUSSION AT THE LEGISLATIVE MEETING? WELL, THEY HAD A LOT OF NEW MEMBERS FROM LAST YEAR.

AND WHEN I POINTED OUT THAT THEY HAD MADE THIS PROPOSAL TO THE LEGISLATURE FOR TETON COUNTY AND LARAMIE COUNTY AND READ FROM THEIR LETTER, A LOT OF EYES GOT REALLY BIG, LIKE I WAS SPEAKING CHINESE OR SOMETHING.

BUT SO THEN WHAT HAPPENED WAS OUR LEGISLATORS WENT AHEAD AND PUSHED FOR THAT MONEY TO GO THROUGH SENATOR GIERAU AND REPRESENTATIVE STORER AND OUR OTHER REPRESENTATIVES DOWN THERE.

AND IT WENT TO APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE AND THEN APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE SAID PASSED IT, BUT SAID BUT IT HAS TO GO THROUGH TO BE ALLOCATED BY THE SCHOOL FACILITIES COMMISSION.

SO YOU WOULD THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT SINCE MARCH THEY'D BE JOHNNY ON THE SPOT AND SAID, OKAY, LET'S ALLOCATE IT OUT THE WAY THE LEGISLATURE TOLD US TO.

BUT THERE IS SEEMS TO BE SOME BACKPEDALING.

AND, YOU KNOW, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THE GOVERNOR AND HE SAT RIGHT THERE AND TOLD US WE'D HAVE OUR MONEY.

BUT I THINK HE THINKS THAT IT'S HIS MISSION TO FIX SCHOOL FACILITY FUNDING, AS HE TOLD US, THAT HE JUST THOUGHT IT WAS.

IT DIDN'T WORK VERY WELL.

AND AS YOU BROUGHT UP, A LOT OF PEOPLE TRIED TO CHANGE THAT.

BUT THE EFFORT IS TO GET THE MONEY OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN SCHOOLS.

BUT I THINK THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO TO CHANGE THE PROCESS FROM WHAT IT IS NOW.

YOU KNOW, FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT, I THINK ANY TIME YOU DO THAT KIND OF BIG PROCESS CHANGE, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHO YOUR CLIENTS ARE AND WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO SIT WELL WITH THEM AND WHETHER THAT CAN HELP THEM WITH THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF BUILDING SCHOOLS IN OUR STATE STILL.

YEAH, I JUST FELT LIKE THE THERE WAS NO ANSWERS.

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AND THE I THINK THE SELECT COMMITTEE WAS SORT OF ANNOYED WITH THE SCHOOL FACILITIES DIVISION, THE ODDLY ENOUGH, THEIR NEW IS IT THE DIRECTOR? WHAT'S THE GAL'S NAME? WHAT'S HER TITLE? SHE'S THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE SCHOOL FACILITIES COMMISSION.

AND VALERIE HUGHES? YEAH. SHE HAD NEVER SEEN A MERCER.

SHE'S ONLY BEEN THERE TWO YEARS.

I MEAN, ALL OF US HERE PRETTY MUCH HAVE SEEN HER, MERCER SAID.

BUT SHE'D NEVER SEEN ONE, SO SHE COULDN'T ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE SELECT COMMITTEE ABOUT MERCER STUDIES AND WHETHER THERE ARE OUTSTANDING MERCER STUDIES THAT NEED TO BE FULFILLED. THERE ARE.

SHE DIDN'T SEEM TO KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS, SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THEY MAY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING ULTIMATELY.

BUT MY FEELING WAS THEY DIDN'T.

AND THE RESULT IS IT'S GOING TO HURT SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

AND WHY WOULD YOU GO DOWN TO CHEYENNE AND MAKE THE EFFORT TO LOBBY? NOBODY ELSE WAS THERE BESIDES LARAMIE AND TETON COUNTY FOR THAT MONEY THIS YEAR.

WHY WOULD YOU BOTHER TO DO THAT WHEN IT'S JUST LIKE, ARBITRARY? THEY DECIDE TO GIVE IT TO YOU OR NOT.

SO YEAH, IT WAS VERY DISAPPOINTING.

BUT WE'RE NOT GIVING IT NOVEMBER 1ST AND SECOND.

WE WILL HAVE A WONDERFUL ROAD TRIP.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND WHY THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD SCHEDULE A MEETING FOR JULY AND THEN PUT IT OFF TO NOVEMBER, REALLY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAD EMERGENCY RULES.

WHY DID THEY NEED EMERGENCY RULES IF THEY WERE GOING TO NOT IMPLEMENT THEM UNTIL LATER ON? YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE EVEN WITHIN IF THEY DO THIS IN NOVEMBER, THE EMERGENCY RULES WILL HAVE EXPIRED BEFORE THEY HAVE THE NEXT MEETING.

I DON'T GET IT. MAYBE YOU DO.

YOU WERE THERE. DO THEY HAVE AN ATTORNEY ASSIGNED TO THE STATE? SORRY, CHAIRMAN SCARLETT AND TRUSTEE GINGERY.

THE STATE CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT HAD TWO ATTORNEYS FROM LSO ASSIGNED TO THEM.

AND THEN THE SELECT COMMITTEE HAD TWO ATTORNEYS THAT WERE ALSO PRESENT.

AND DURING THE STATE CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT MEETING IN BUFFALO, JUNE 6TH AND SEVENTH, THE MAJORITY OF THE VERY NARROW AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WAS ALLOCATED WAS SPENT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ABOUT TWO HOURS AND 45 MINUTES WAS SPENT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO THAT WAS ALSO FRUSTRATING THAT WE SHOW UP AND THEN OUR TIME TO TO TESTIFY AND PRESENT WAS LIMITED BECAUSE THEY SPENT SO MUCH TIME IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THEY STATE THE REASON WHY THEY WERE IN EXECUTIVE LITIGATION.

LEGAL MATTERS? I THINK LEGAL MATTERS.

LEGAL MATTERS. THE OFFICIAL TERM THEY USE WAS LEGAL MATTERS.

AND IT WAS TO SEPARATE.

I REMEMBER THAT BEING THE STATUTE.

THAT'S THE TRUSTEE DORNAN.

SO ARE THEY TRYING TO SORT THEIR BUDGETARY REASONS? ARE THEY TRYING TO MAKE THEIR BOTTOM LINE LOOK GOOD BECAUSE OF TAXES OR DO THEY WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE THE TREASURY HAS THIS OR THAT? IS THERE MANIPULATION TO MAKE THE BUDGET LOOK GOOD? TRUSTEES, IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY OF THAT? YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND REASON? YES. I DON'T KNOW.

MY. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

MY OPINION IS THEY REALLY WANT TO JUST CONTROL THE PROCESS AND THEY JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

BUT LET'S [INAUDIBLE] THINK HERE.

WHO HAS THE GOLD CONTROLS, WHATEVER, THAT.

SO THEY CONTROL IT.

AND IT'S FRUSTRATING, MY SENSE WITH THE LEGISLATORS THAT ARE VERY FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THEY ALLOCATED THIS MONEY TO BE IN THE GROUND BY NOW AND THEN AS FAR AS THE LEGAL MATTERS.

I KNOW OUR REPORTER FROM THE NEWS AND GUIDE IS HERE HAS REACHED OUT HAD REACHED OUT TO THE DIRECTOR AND HE WOULD MAKE NO COMMENT TO HER BECAUSE OF THE LITIGATION EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT PARTY TO ANY LAWSUITS, WHICH IS FUNNY. SO.

IT'S MR. CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS.

IT'S REALLY A DISAPPOINTING PICTURE OF OUR STATE.

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SO SO ON THE GOOD NEWS, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING ON NOVEMBER 1ST AND SEVENTH, AND WE'LL ALL BE THERE.

WE WILL ALL BE THERE YOU TO KEEP GOING BACK TO BEING POSITIVE.

AND ON NOVEMBER 3RD IS IT'S A FRIDAY NIGHT IN LARAMIE.

AND WHOEVER GOES CAN GO TO THE FOOTBALL GAME AGAINST COLORADO STATE UNIVERSITY.

SO HOPEFULLY IT'S IN EXCEPT FOR EXCEPT FOR TRUSTEES.

ALL EXCEPT FOR TRUSTEES WILL FIND HER A NICE SEAT OUT IN THE PARKING LOT.

OH. DID YOU GO TO CSU? YEAH. SHE SAID YOU'RE ON THIS BOARD.

YEAH. NOBODY KNEW.

I THOUGHT THERE WAS, LIKE, QUALIFICATION.

OH, THAT'S ME. WELL, IF IT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE, I NEVER WENT TO A SINGLE FOOTBALL GAME.

TO THE FINAL TABLE. OH, OKAY.

THAT CONCLUDES OTHER REPORTS.

GREAT. UM, I SUGGEST WE GO STRAIGHT INTO THE MAIN EVENT.

MR. CHAIR, I WOULD MOVE TO ADJOURN INTO THE ANNUAL BUDGET HEARING.

MOVE BY TRUSTEE MEAD SECOND BY TRUSTEE GINGERY TO ADJOURN INTO THE ANNUAL.

[E. Annual Budget Hearing FY24]

A BUDGET HEARING.

THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED. WE ARE ADJOURNED.

OKAY, I'LL START RIGHT IN.

I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT THIS BUDGET IS PREPARED WITH A ONE STEP INCREASE FOR ALL STAFF EXCEPT FOR THE NON ADMINISTRATIVE CLASSIFIED STAFF.

AND THAT'S BEEN PREPARED WITH TWO STEPS FOR THOSE STAFF.

ANOTHER SIDE NOTE OUR FUNDING DOCUMENT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IS TYPICALLY PUBLISHED TO US IN EITHER MARCH AND APRIL, AND THAT INCORPORATES ALL OF THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE SESSION.

WE STILL HAVE YET TO RECEIVE OUR FUNDING DOCUMENT AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE WOULDN'T BE GETTING THE FINAL VERSION OF THAT UNTIL THE END OF JULY.

SO AS RECENT AS YESTERDAY, I RECEIVED UPDATED INFORMATION THAT WILL EVENTUALLY BE BUILT INTO OUR FUNDING DOCUMENT ON ALLOWABLE EDUCATIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE. SO I'VE PREPARED THIS BUDGET WITH THE BEST ESTIMATE THAT I POSSIBLY CAN ON OUR FOUNDATION GUARANTEE, BUT IT WILL DEFINITELY CHANGE AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE YEAR AND THE TYPICAL PROCESS THAT FUNDING IS TYPICALLY NOT CERTIFIED UNTIL MARCH.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PROCESS WILL BE DELAYED OR NOT.

THE FIRST PAGE THAT I'D LIKE TO REVIEW IS PAGE FOUR, AND THIS IS JUST POINTING OUT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD IN THE BUDGET BEFORE.

AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY TO SEE WHAT OUR STRUCTURE IN THE DISTRICT IS, AND THAT'S OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART.

WE WORK AS A TEAM IN CABINET TO REALLY HAVE A THOROUGH EVALUATION OF WHAT ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT DO, ESPECIALLY THE DISTRICT LEADERSHIP.

AND I THINK THIS GIVES A REALLY GOOD PICTURE OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE DISTRICT AT ONE TIME.

SO IF ANYBODY EVER HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR WANTED TO KNOW WHO TO ESCALATE AN ISSUE TO, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO START.

AND I WILL GO THROUGH THE PAGES THAT I HAVE CITED TO POINT OUT.

BUT AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS AS WE MOVE THROUGH, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

THE NEXT PAGE IS PAGE NINE.

AND THIS, I THINK, IS HELPFUL UNDERSTANDING A LOT OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WE USE.

YOU'LL OFTEN HEAR US TALK ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND OR FUND TEN OR GRANT FUNDS OR FUND 20.

AND AT THE TOP OF THIS PAGE, UNDER GOVERNMENTAL, PROPRIETARY AND FIDUCIARY FUNDS, THERE'S CLEAR DEPICTIONS OF THE DEFINITIONS OF THOSE FUNDS. SO YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUND 20 OR SPECIAL PURPOSE FUNDS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

OKAY, SO THE NEXT TWO PAGES THAT I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT ARE PAGE 17 AND 18.

SO ON THIS FIRST PAGE, GENERAL FUND SUMMARY, THIS IS MY BEST ESTIMATE OF WHERE OUR CASH RESERVES WILL END UP AFTER WE HAVE THE ACCRUAL OF REVENUE THAT COMES IN POST JUNE 30TH.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 5 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE.

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BUT IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THIS IS OUR ACTUALS ON JUNE 30TH.

AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT DECEIVING.

IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT RIGHT HERE WHERE IT SAYS NET CHANGE IN FUND BALANCE IS 4.8 MILLION.

WE ACTUALLY HAD 1.6 MILLION COME IN ALREADY SINCE JUNE 30TH THAT ARE REVENUES THAT BELONG TO LAST YEAR.

AND WHEN I TRY TO GET ESTIMATES OF THIS THIS YEAR, TYPICALLY THE COUNTY SENDS OVER THE NUMBER.

BUT WHEN I REACHED OUT TO THE COUNTY THIS YEAR, I SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT LOOKING LIKE? WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING? AND THEY SAID, EXPECT A LOT.

IT'S REALLY BUSY HERE.

SO I THINK THEY'RE FEELING THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE ALL FEELING IS THAT IT'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND A LOT OF MONEY MOVING AROUND. AND SO THIS IS WHERE WE ENDED ON 630 AT 3.3 IN CASH RESERVES.

BUT THE ACTUAL NUMBER IS CLOSER TO 5 MILLION TODAY.

AND THEN THE NEXT TWO PAGES ARE YOUR REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES.

AS YOU ALL ARE USED TO SEEING.

AND THEN A LITTLE BIT DOWN ON THE PAGE.

ANDREA OR ON THE NEXT PAGE, ACTUALLY, YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR ESTIMATED RECAPTURE AMOUNT IS 81 MILLION.

ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? I. IT'S.

GO TO SCHOOL. LET'S GO TO OUR EXPENDITURES PAGE.

SO YOU CAN SEE SALARIES AND BENEFITS.

I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT FOR JUST A MINUTE.

THAT CHANGE FROM THE ACTUALS OF LAST YEAR IS 1.18 MILLION.

AGAIN, THAT IS THE INCREASE IN THE STEPS AND THE INSURANCE.

SO THERE'S WHEN I WHEN I BUDGETED THIS YEAR, I WENT INTO A BIT MORE DETAIL THAN I TYPICALLY DO ON THE LINE BY LINE AND PERSON BY PERSON.

OUR SYSTEM DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO THAT.

BUT I FELT IT WAS I REALLY WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE SOME OF THE OVERAGES FROM LAST YEAR CAME FROM.

AND WE ARE BUDGETED FOR THE $680 MILLION IN SUB COSTS OR 680,000.

BUT I DO HOPE TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT AMOUNT A LITTLE BIT AND IN ESSENCE REDUCE THAT THAT INCREASE THAT CHANGE.

OUR GENERAL FUND, OPERATIONAL ACTUALS WILL DECREASE 1.2 MILLION.

AND THAT IS BECAUSE THAT TECH LEASE THAT WE PAID LAST YEAR, 1.5.

IT'S ALL QUESTIONS ON THE EXPENDITURES.

OKAY. PAGE 24.

UH, OUR FISCAL YEAR 24 GRANT AWARDS ARE HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR TITLE ONE DECREASED SLIGHTLY, MOST OF THEM DECREASED SLIGHTLY, EXCEPT FOR TITLE TWO AND 611 619.

I GUESS THAT'S NOT MOST OF THEM.

BUT AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE TITLE.

ONE SPECIFICALLY IS BASED ON OUR CENSUS DATA AND BECAUSE OUR WAGES IN TETON COUNTY ARE SO HIGH, IT DOESN'T ACCURATELY REFLECT THE AMOUNT OF POPULATION THAT WE HAVE LIVING IN POVERTY, WHICH IS THE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT THAT THAT FUND SERVES.

SO WE'D LOVE AT SOME POINT IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD LOOK AT REDEFINING THOSE RULES ARE.

BUT AS OF YET, THEY PROBABLY AREN'T.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT IN FISCAL YEAR 22, WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE EXTRA POTS OF MONEY THAT WILL BE EXPIRING THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR.

SO THEY ARE BUDGETED.

WE HAVE EXPENDED MOST OF THAT.

ESSER THREE IS THE BIGGEST POT OF MONEY AND WE HAVE THAT BUDGETED OUT THROUGH THE EXPENDITURE PERIOD.

I THINK OVERALL ASSESSMENT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IS WE'VE BEEN IN A BIT OF A SPENDING MOTION AND WE NEED TO TRANSITION.

IT'S HARD WHEN YOU GET ALL OF THESE FEDERAL FUNDS IN LIKE THE ESSER FUNDS THAT CREATE THE FUNDING CLIFF AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE ALL GET REALLY USED TO SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY AND WE DEFINITELY NEED TO MAKE THAT SHIFT THIS YEAR OF RESTRICTING AND NOW PULLING BACK AND REALLY TIGHTENING OUR BELTS UP SO WE CAN REBUILD THE CASH RESERVES FROM THE 168.

YOU KNOW, THE PIECE OF LEGISLATURE THAT WAS IN FRONT OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES IN FEBRUARY THAT BASED THE RCA, IT WAS THEY WERE EITHER GOING TO STICK WITH THE THREE YEAR

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AVERAGE OR USE PRIOR YEAR.

IF THEY HAD MADE THAT CHANGE, OUR FUNDING MODEL WOULD BE AT 168%, WHICH WOULD BE SO GOOD FOR US BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT OUR CURRENT RCA AT THAT TIME WAS. THIS YEAR'S FUNDING MODEL PUTS US AT 164%, SO WE'RE STILL 4% SHY OF THE INCREASE THAT WE GAVE LAST YEAR. BUT I DO BELIEVE OVER TIME WE CAN START TO BUILD BACK OUR RESERVES.

AND THEN THE LAST PAGE THAT I WANTED TO LOOK AT IS ON PAGE 28, AND THIS IS OUR MAJOR MAINTENANCE.

AND AS I WAS REVIEWING THIS DOCUMENT, IT'S LIKE AT 1.6 MILLION.

I THOUGHT WE WERE SPENDING THROUGH ALL OF THIS.

THAT WAS MY INITIAL THOUGHT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I WENT AND I REFLECTED BACK ON DEANA'S MAJOR MAINTENANCE PLANNING DOCUMENT.

AND I THINK ALWAYS THAT 630, THAT JUNE 30TH NUMBER IS GOING TO LOOK HIGH FOR US BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT MONEY IN THERE BECAUSE WE'RE DOING SO MANY PROJECTS IN THE SUMMER.

AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD THING TO POINT OUT IS, YOU KNOW, WE EXPECT THAT NUMBER TO BE LOW BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE HAVE PROJECTS PLANNED, BUT THAT'S WHY IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO LOOK A LITTLE HIGHER IN JUNE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SPENT IT YET FOR THE SUMMER.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BUDGET? YOU'LL ALSO FIND ATTACHED TO THE DETAIL THE LINE ITEM DETAIL FOR ALL FUNDS.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, I'D HAVE TO ANSWER.

I WILL MOVE ON TO THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS.

THE BEST ARGUMENT TO SUMMARIZE THIS, I THINK, IS THE NOTICE OF THE HEARING THAT WE PUT IN THE PAPER, THE BUDGET AD, AND YOU CAN SEE THE INCREASES AND THE DECREASES THERE BASED ON.

BASED BY FUND.

AND THIS IS THE STATE STATUTE THAT REQUIRES US TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT AFTER THE YEAR HAS CLOSED SO THAT NO EXPENDITURE LINE IS OVER BUDGET. SO I'VE DONE THAT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THIS YEAR AND YOU CAN SEE THE DETAIL FOR EACH FUND.

LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT FUND TEN QUICKLY.

WE DON'T NEED TO LOOK AT THEM ALL.

UM. 110 BUDGET AMENDMENT.

SO THE AUDITORS AND I HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH OVER THIS PROCESS EVERY YEAR.

AND THE STATUTE ACTUALLY SAYS BY MAJOR CODE OR BY DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS THE ONE THOUSANDS AND THAT'S THAT FUNCTION CODE.

THAT'S FIVE DIGITS IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR ACCOUNT CODE.

BUT WE SEEM TO NOT COMMUNICATE VERY CLEARLY ABOUT THAT EVERY YEAR.

SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE ACTUALLY JUST GONE THROUGH AND ADJUSTED EVERY LINE IN THE BUDGET SO THAT HE WILL LOOK FONDLY UPON MY BUDGET AMENDMENT.

AND I'VE DONE THIS FOR EVERY FUND.

SO THERE IS AN ATTACHED DETAIL FOR EVERY FUND.

THAT DOES US WELL AND IT'S PERFECT NOW.

OKAY. SOME NOTES ON THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS ALREADY WENT THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.

THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS.

THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET WAS THE 1.5 MILLION, $1.6 MILLION APPLE PURCHASE.

WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT ALL OF THOSE.

THE RECREATION DISTRICT WAS THE REC DISTRICT BOARD GRANTED ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN THE YEAR FROM THE ORIGINAL BUDGET.

SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT ONE.

THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE FUND, THIS HAS BEEN A PROCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN REFINING AND ACTUALLY DONE A LOT OF WORK THIS YEAR ON WHAT THAT PLAN LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD. SO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR MAJOR MAINTENANCE IS MERELY THAT WE GOT MORE WORK DONE THAN WE HAD PLANNED LAST YEAR.

AND WITH THE NEW CASH FLOW THAT DEANA HAS IMPLEMENTED, WE'LL BE ABLE TO BUDGET THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE FUND MORE EFFECTIVELY MOVING FORWARD.

THE ENTERPRISE FOOD SERVICE FUND, THAT WHEN THIS WAS GOING TO BE A BIT OF A TREACHEROUS YEAR ANYWAY BECAUSE WE WERE GOING INTO UH, SORRY.

I JUST TOTALLY LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

WE WERE GOING INTO PAID MEALS AFTER THREE YEARS OF FULLY PAID MEALS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

AND SO WE WE HAD TO ADJUST STAFFING TO RIGHT SIZE THE DISTRICTS.

AND DANNY'S DOING A GOOD JOB.

WE'RE STILL WORKING ON FIGURING OUT WHAT THAT RIGHT AMOUNT OF STAFFING IS.

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WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK AROUND THE MENUS AND REALLY IMPROVING THE KITCHENS.

THAT'S THE OTHER PIECE IS THERE WAS A LOT OF EQUIPMENT THAT WAS DEFICIENT THAT WAS BREAKING DOWN.

I MEAN, I THINK THE HIGH SCHOOL WAS OPERATING OUT OF ONE OVEN FOR A WHILE, AND SO THERE WERE SOME NEGLECTED MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAT WE REALLY HAD TO DIG IN ON THIS YEAR.

SO THE INCREASE IN THE BUDGET HERE IS DUE TO A WHOLE NUMBER OF THINGS, BUT THE ENTERPRISE FUND WORKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE GENERAL FUND.

IT'S NOT JUST OVER.

WE'RE TAKING IN REVENUE.

WE HAVE MONEY COMING IN FROM DONATIONS.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAD TO DIP INTO THE GENERAL FUND BY 288,000.

WE DID HAVE TO DO A SUBSIDY TRANSFER OF 100,000 AT THE END OF THE YEAR TO COMPENSATE FOR FOR SOME OF THIS.

BUT. IT'S NOT THE FULL AMOUNT.

THIS CHAIR CHRISTIAN THE FUNDS 60 TWO, WHICH IS DENTAL CLAIMS. CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE DIDN'T WE HAVE DELTA DENTAL BEFORE? AND SO WHY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A FUND LIKE THIS FOR THIS? WELL, THIS ISN'T ACTUALLY FOR DELTA DENTAL.

WE ARE SELF-INSURED FOR DENTAL.

WE WERE WITH WITH DELTA DENTAL THROUGH WEBPT AND WE ARE NOW WITH GUARDIAN THROUGH CIGNA AND HUB.

THIS IS A PASS THROUGH.

SO WE HAVE THAT MILLION DOLLARS IN THIS MEDICAL INSURANCE FUND FROM WHEN WE WERE SELF-INSURED AND WE RECEIVED MONEY BACK.

WE JUST PASSED IT.

WE JUST PASS IT THROUGH.

THIS YEAR IN PARTICULAR, THE CLAIMS EXCEEDED THE REVENUE THAT WE TOOK IN.

SO BASICALLY THE AMOUNT WE CHARGED EMPLOYEES WASN'T WHAT THE CLAIMS WERE EQUAL TO THE CLAIMS. IF IT WASN'T HERE, IT WOULD BE IN THE GENERAL FUND.

BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT MILLION DOLLARS SITTING OVER IN THE MEDICAL INSURANCE FUND, AUDIT WISE, IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THOSE CLAIMS TO PASS THROUGH THIS ACCOUNT.

AND SO THE AMENDMENT HERE IS THE 51,000 THAT YOU WERE ASSURED.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE AMENDMENTS? ANY QUESTIONS? OH, OKAY.

THAT'S IT. WE'LL MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE 2324 BUDGET OR THE 23 2223 BUDGET AMENDMENTS.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS LOCALLY? IF YOU'RE ONLINE, RAISED YOUR HAND AND WE WILL LET YOU IN.

OTHER COMMENTS. COME.

NONE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

HAVE TO REMIND ME. WE HAVE A DISCUSSION HERE OR A DISCUSSION OF THE IDEA.

I'D MOVE TO LEAVE THE BUDGET HEARING.

BACK A SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY TRUSTEE GINGERY AND SECONDED BY TRUSTEE CARLIN TO ADJOURN THE BUDGET HEARING AND GO BACK INTO THE REGULAR MEETING.

WELCOME BACK TO THE REGULAR MEETING.

WE WILL MOVE INTO ACTION ITEMS. OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A BREAK? SO GO ON. IS EVERYBODY OKAY? COULD YOU USE A BREAK? NO. OKAY, WE'LL ROLL FORWARD.

ACTION ITEMS. NUMBER ONE, CONSIDERATION OF THE TSD.

[F. Action Items]

NUMBER ONE, FISCAL YEAR 24 COMPREHENSIVE BUDGET.

MR. CHAIR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE NUMBER ONE FISCAL YEAR 24 COMPREHENSIVE BUDGET AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE NUMBER ONE FISCAL YEAR 24 COMPREHENSIVE BUDGET AS PRESENTED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION AMONGST THE BOARD? IT'S MR. CHAIRMAN.

TREASURER WILL SAY THIS TOO, BUT CAN ALL GO DOWN THE LINE AND JUST REALLY THANK MR. MAYO, JUST SO IMPRESSIVE.

EVERY YEAR THE AMOUNT OF CURIOS SHE GIVES US, THE AMOUNT OF DETAIL AND I HOPE SHE'S NOT OFFENDED THAT WE DON'T ASK HER QUESTIONS.

I THINK IT'S MOSTLY BECAUSE OF OUR EXTREME CONFIDENCE IN YOU THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

SO. THANK YOU.

MR. CHAIR. UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATED THE ORG CHART AND THE SORT OF A. RESOURCE OF THE, YOU KNOW, DESCRIPTION OF THE FUNDS.

AND IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THAT COULD BE PULLED OUT AND JUST GIVEN TO US AS A LITTLE CHEAT SHEET THAT WE COULD KEEP AROUND.

ALSO A GOOD IDEA.

YES. KRISTEN'S NODDING HER HEAD.

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SHE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

GREAT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY? I WOULD JUST REITERATE THAT I THINK KRISTEN HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AND I THINK SHE DESERVES AN AWARD FOR THIS BUDGET.

I THINK IT SHOULD NOT BE NOMINATED FOR IT ACTUALLY IS, ISN'T IT, THERE? YEAH, BUT WE'RE GETTING THERE IS ACTUALLY AWARDS FOR SCHOOL DISTRICT BUDGETS.

YES, YES, YES.

YEAH, IT'S THE PICTURES.

THE PICTURES. THAT'S HOW YOU WIN.

IT'S NOT THE NUMBERS.

THAT'S THE PICTURES.

WELL, I WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW.

OKAY. SO WILL YOU SUBMIT THIS? YES, BUT I'LL SUBMIT IT WITH THE ORIGINAL PICTURE THAT YOU SENT ME.

I ASKED HER FOR ONE, AND THAT WAS OF.

I'M VERY GOOD.

WHY NOT? WELL, THANK YOU, KRISTIN.

IT'S BEEN A JOY WORKING WITH THAT.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE FISCAL YEAR 24 BUDGET AS PRESENTED.

PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE THAT'S GREAT.

UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU, KRISTIN.

NEXT UP IS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE TCSD NUMBER ONE FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET AMENDMENTS.

MR. CHAIR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE TCSD NUMBER ONE F FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED.

SECOND.

MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE TCSD NUMBER ONE FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. OKAY.

IT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU, KRISTEN.

AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER THREE, CONSIDERATION OF NEW MUNGER MOUNTAIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SEWER RULE DEFINING AN EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT, ERU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

OUR TRUANCY OFFICER, IS SHE NOT? SHE'S STILL A TRUANT OFFICER.

SHE DOES A LOT FOR NOT.

YOU SWITCHED IT SO THAT EACH PRINCIPAL IS THE OFFICIAL TRUANT.

THEY ARE. OKAY.

SO YOU TOOK AWAY HER BADGE.

WELL, I PRINTED [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S EVEN BETTER.

IT'S HERE. MR. CHAIR, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ASK THE SUPERINTENDENT TO RETURN MY BADGE.

I DON'T MAKE THAT AN ACTION ITEM.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION IS A CHANGE TO THE RULES FOR THE MUNGER MOUNTAIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SEWER SYSTEM.

CONNECTION AND USE RULES AND REGULATIONS.

AS YOU WILL RECALL AT YOUR MEETING IN MAY, THE BOARD DIRECTED STAFF TO PUT OUT FOR A 45 DAY PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD THE CHANGE TO THE RULES THAT STATED THAT AN EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT OR ERU WAS A HOUSING UNIT OF UP TO TWO BEDROOMS. THE BOARD ASKED THAT THAT BE CHANGED TO THREE BEDROOMS SO THAT IS THE RULE CHANGE PRESENTED FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION TONIGHT AFTER THE 45 DAY COMMENT PERIOD HAS EXPIRED.

SO THE 45 DAYS HAS EXPIRED? CORRECT, CORRECT.

THE RULE CHANGE WAS ADVERTISED.

WE WAITED THE 45 DAYS AND NOW IT'S BEFORE YOU TWO FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.

AND DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO.

QUESTIONS FOR..

NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. PUBLIC COMMENT.

PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE SEWER RULES [INAUDIBLE] PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANYBODY ONLINE? OKAY, BACK TO THE BOARD.

I HAVE A MOTION.

MR. CHAIR, I MOVED TO APPROVE THE NEW MUNGER MOUNTAIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SEWER SYSTEM RULE TO DEFINE AN EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT AS UP TO THREE BEDROOMS AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE NEW MUNGER MOUNTAIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SEWER SYSTEM RULE TO DEFINE AN EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT IS UP TO THREE BEDROOMS AS PRESENTED.

ANY DISCUSSION?

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BOARD. I THINK IT'S A MIXTURE AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO HELP. AND I KNOW BRIAN BARNEY IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT GAME AND FISH, AND I THINK IT WILL HELP THEM ALSO TO TIE ON.

SO BOTH BOTH THOSE ENTITIES, I THINK WILL BENEFIT FROM FROM THIS.

I'M JUST HAPPY TO PASS IT TO YOU.

I GUESS I WILL CLARIFY THE REASON THAT WE'RE THAT WE SUGGESTED THIS CONSULTING CONSULTATION WITH MATT ALSO IS THAT THE ERU GALLONS PER DAY THAT WE WERE USING MORE CLOSELY MATCHES A THREE BEDROOM UNIT VERSUS A TWO BEDROOM.

AND SO IT JUST MAKES MORE SENSE FOR CALCULATIONS AND EVERYTHING.

SO. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE THE RULE CHANGE AS PRESENTED SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED.

OKAY, THAT'S PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

UM, NUMBER FOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE ANNUAL WYOMING SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION MEMBERSHIP RENEWAL.

DR. CHAPMAN.

TRUSTEES, THIS IS THE SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION RENEWAL FOR WYOMING.

AND THE MEMBERSHIP BENEFITS FLIER IS POSTED FOR YOUR REVIEW.

AND THE ANNUAL DUES FOR MEMBERSHIP IN WSBA ARE CAPPED AT 21,000.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE DUES FOR TETON COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT ARE, AS IT'S BASED ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S EXPENDITURES.

OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DR.

CHAPMAN. MR. CHAIR? YES. DR.

CHAPMAN. SO WE'RE IN 4A, BUT WE'RE REALLY NOT A BIG SCHOOL COMPARED TO SOME OF THE SCHOOLS ACROSS THE STATE.

SO THEY PAY 21,002.

AT TRUSTEES AND TRUSTEE MEAD, THERE ARE, I BELIEVE, SIX SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE CAPPED AT 21,000.

AND FOR EXAMPLE, LARAMIE COUNTY, CASPER, CAMPBELL COUNTY, UM, ROCK SPRINGS.

UM, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE DISTRICTS, I THINK.

ALSO ALBANY COUNTY.

THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE CAPPED AT 21,000.

AND BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON SCHOOL DISTRICT EXPENDITURES AND TETON COUNTY RECEIVES ADDITIONAL FUNDING DUE TO THE REGIONAL COST ADJUSTMENT.

IF THEY WENT ON A STRAIGHT CALCULATION, TETON COUNTY WOULD PAY 24,000, BUT IT'S CAPPED AT 21,000 VERSUS LARAMIE COUNTY. FOR EXAMPLE, I BELIEVE THEY WOULD PAY 94,000, BUT THEY'RE CAPPED AT 21,000.

SO. WE PAY..

A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.

A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.

AND IT'S NOT BASED ON 4 A, BUT BASED ON YOUR EXPENDITURES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COUPLE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN, DR.

CHAPMAN, THE BENEFITS THAT WSB HAS PROVIDED IS PROVIDING US? SO THE MEMBERSHIP FLIER IS A GOOD ONE TO LOOK AT.

ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THEY LIST ALL THE SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

THE PRIMARY ONE WOULD BE ADVOCACY.

AND WITH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WITH ADVOCACY, A LOT OF TIMES THAT MEANS TESTIFYING IN PUBLIC MEETINGS IN THE LEGISLATURE. BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES SOME OF THE BEHIND THE SCENES CONVERSATIONS THAT MAY BE TAKING PLACE WITH MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE OR THE WSB PUTS TOGETHER THEIR LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THAT IS DEVELOPED BASED ON DISTRICT MEMBER FEEDBACK.

SO I WOULD SAY LEGISLATIVE SERVICES AND ADVOCACY ARE THE TWO THAT ARE A PART OF THE MEMBERSHIP.

THE REMAINING PORTIONS ARE ALL AVAILABLE FOR ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE ON.

UM. POLICY UPDATES IF THERE IS A CHANGE IN STATE STATUTE AND WHERE A MEMBER OF THE POLICY SERVICES.

THEN WE'LL GET AN EMAIL THAT HAS HERE'S THE STATE STATUTE THAT CHANGED AND WE RECOMMEND YOU LOOK AT THIS POLICY TO MAKE SURE YOUR POLICY MATCHES THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE STATUTE.

BUT THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL FEE.

SO 21,000 DOESN'T COVER EVERYTHING ON THE LEFT.

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IT COVERS ESSENTIALLY LEGISLATIVE SERVICES AND ADVOCACY.

SO LET'S GO TO THE POLICY DISCUSSION.

I KNOW OVER THE YEARS THAT I'VE SERVED THAT POLICY CHANGES HAVE BEEN BENEFICIAL TO US.

YES. WHEN THEY COME IN.

HOW? ARE THERE OTHER SERVICES OUT THERE THAT WE CAN APPROACH TO PROVIDE US THE SAME STYLE OF SERVICE? UM. CHAIRMAN SCARLETT I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN ACCESS.

YES. OKAY.

SO IT'S NOT JUST TIED TO WSBA.

NO, I BELIEVE WE COULD ACCESS THAT IN ALTERNATIVE MEASURES.

THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE GO.

TRUSTEE GINGERY. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? OH, I GUESS IT WAS JUST MORE OF A IT'S THE SAME QUESTION YOU JUST ASKED.

MAYBE TO SARAH, DOES SARAH FEEL COMFORTABLE? I MEAN, I ASSUME AFTER EACH LEGISLATIVE SESSION SHE READS ALL THE STATUTES THAT PASSED, AND IF SHE SEES SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO, SHE COULD DRAFT IT.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NICE TO SOMETIMES GET AN EMAIL TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO, BUT SHE'S QUITE CAPABLE OF DOING THAT.

ALSO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SHE'S COMFORTABLE.

IF WE WE DID GO AWAY FROM WSBA.

YOU'RE COMFORTABLE RECOMMENDING POLICIES TO US THAT NEED TO BE PASSED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH NEW STATUTES? YES, I THINK WE CERTAINLY COULD DO THAT.

I WILL SAY IN THE PAST AND HISTORICALLY, WE JUST SIMPLY RELIED ON WHAT COMES OUT OF USDA AS POLICY UPDATES.

AND THEN.

THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME WE TAKE WHAT THEY SEND AND TYPICALLY REVISE SOMETIMES SIGNIFICANTLY FOR OUR BENEFIT INTO OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND PRACTICES.

AND SO I GUESS THE INSTANT REMINDER OF THESE ARE THE LEGAL CHANGES AND THIS IS WHAT WE RECOMMEND BOTH ON THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL, IS HELPFUL.

BUT THERE CERTAINLY ARE OTHER RESOURCES.

WE ARE AWARE OF OTHER DISTRICTS WHO ARE COMPLETELY, I THINK, STARTING TO SWITCH TO OTHER SERVICES IN THEIR POLICY MANUAL LOOKS NOTHING LIKE WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN WYOMING HAVE, WHICH INITIALLY CAME FROM THE WSBA.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT TO GO AT ALL, KIND OF THROWING THAT ONE OUT OF THE WINDOW.

BUT WE CERTAINLY COULD DO THAT.

DO YOU LIKE. MR. CHAIR, WHILE.

I DON'T THINK WE GET A LOT OF BANG FOR OUR BUCK FROM THE WSBA I DO THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT $1 MILLION $60 MILLION BUDGET LIKE WE HAVE $21,000 IS SORT OF A DROP IN THE BUCKET.

AND I THINK IT TAKES SOME OF THE PRESSURE OFF OUR STAFF TO HAVE TO GO AND KIND OF LOOK THESE THINGS UP.

MY SENSE IS THAT THERE'S MORE OF A STAFFING ISSUE WITH WSBA RIGHT NOW THAN THE ORGANIZATION IN GENERAL.

AND I ACTUALLY.

WELL, I'VE SORT OF HAMMER ON THEM TO ADVOCATE FOR OUR SCHOOLS MORE LIKE IN THE MEDIA AND THAT SORT OF THING, BECAUSE OUR SCHOOLS IN WYOMING ARE REALLY PRETTY MUCH SECOND TO NO STATE.

BUT YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE OUR ORGANIZATION DOESN'T TELL THE PUBLIC THAT.

STILL, I THINK THAT WE'D JUST BE PILING MORE WORK ON OUR PEOPLE IN THE ADMINISTRATION AND THAT SORT OF THING IF WE DON'T CONTINUE WITH WSB.

AND I WOULD NOTE THAT IT SAYS HERE ANYWAY THAT YOU CAN'T BE A MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION UNLESS YOU'RE A MEMBER OF WSB.

AND I THINK THAT NATIONAL SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATIONS OFFER US REAL OPPORTUNITIES WITH THEIR NATIONAL CONFERENCES AND THAT SORT OF THING.

AND IN FEDERAL ADVOCACY.

SO I WOULD KIND OF HATE TO SEE US LEAVE WSBA.

DR. CHAPMAN, CAN YOU GIVE US THE WSBA UPDATE ON THE.

THAT CAME IN LATE LAST NIGHT? YES. TRUSTEES OVER THE WEEKEND, THE WCA BOARD OF DIRECTORS VOTED TO DISCONTINUE MEMBERSHIP IN THE NATIONAL SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION.

AND WE CAN.

HOWEVER, SINCE WSBA HAS VOTED TO NOT CONTINUE MEMBERSHIP WITH NSBA, WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE MEMBERS OF NATIONAL CONNECTIONS SO WE CAN STILL STAY CONNECTED TO NATIONAL

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NSBA INFORMATION POLICY INFORMATION ET-CETERA AND STAY CONNECTED TO SOME OF THE MOST BENEFICIAL COMPONENTS.

I THINK OF THAT WOULD BE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, ADVOCACY ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL OF SCHOOL ATTORNEYS.

REALLY GREAT INFORMATION THAT SARAH ACCESSES ON A REGULAR BASIS SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE MEMBERS OF NATIONAL CONNECTIONS ABSENT.

AND MR. CHAIR, SABRINA CHAPMAN.

HOW MUCH DO WE ALSO HAVE TO PAY AN WSBA MEMBERSHIP EVEN IF WE STAY WITH WYOMING SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION.

ARE THOSE OR IS IT COVERED BY WOMEN'S? SO. THE REQUIREMENT FOR NATIONAL SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION.

YOU CAN'T BE A MEMBER AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT TO NATIONAL SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION.

IT'S A STATE MEMBERSHIP.

SO IF WYOMING, WHICH WYOMING SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION VOTED TO DROP OUT OF WSBA AND BECAUSE THEY DID THAT, THEN WE CAN ACCESS NATIONAL CONNECTIONS AND IT'S MAYBE $3,000 FIREWALL.

IF WYOMING SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION ELECTED TO STAY WITHIN NSBA, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACCESS MSBA NATIONAL CONNECTIONS OR ANYTHING BECAUSE OUR MEMBER DISTRICT OR MEMBER STATE WAS STILL AFFILIATED.

SO HAD THEY STAYED IN TO MSBA.

WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ACCESS NSBA WITHOUT THEM.

AND WHAT IS THE REASON? SUPERINTENDENT CHAPMAN FOR THEIR DECISION AFTER ALL THESE YEARS TO.

NOT BE A MEMBER OF NSBA BECAUSE I DIDN'T NOTICE THEY WERE TALKING TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ABOUT THAT.

UM, SO TRUSTEES, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE WSBA BOARD OF DIRECTORS, WHICH IS MADE UP OF REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVES, WE USED TO HAVE JANINE BAY TESKE IS THE REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVE AND NOW OUR REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVE IS OUT OF LINCOLN COUNTY.

SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS DECIDED TO, THEY ADDED CASBA, WHICH STANDS FOR CONSORTIUM OF STATE SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATIONS, AND IT'S A NEW ORGANIZATION THAT I BELIEVE HAS JUST BEEN IN.

I THINK THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR THEY'RE GOING INTO THEIR SECOND YEAR.

AND SO I BELIEVE THAT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS ADDED CASBA AND THIS YEAR THEY DECIDED TO DROP NSBA.

YOU MIGHT RECALL IN SEPTEMBER 2021, A LETTER WAS SENT TO PRESIDENT BIDEN SUGGESTING THAT SOME OF THE SITUATIONS THAT WEREN'T HAPPENING NECESSARILY IN WYOMING, THANK GOODNESS, BUT WERE HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WERE STORMING BOARD MEETINGS AND MAKING THREATS TOWARD BOARD MEMBERS AND SUPERINTENDENTS AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS FOR THEIR POLICIES AROUND MASKING AND A VARIETY OF OTHER THINGS.

A LETTER WAS SENT BY AN INTERIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THAT WAS POORLY WORDED AND THAT REALLY CREATED A POLITICAL DIVIDE.

I THINK THE INTENT WAS PROBABLY APPROPRIATE, BUT THE WORDING OF THE LETTER WAS PRETTY INCENDIARY.

SO IT'S POLITICAL, YOU'RE SAYING? ONE MIGHT SAY THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PROBLEM.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, NOW YOU'VE MADE ME CHANGE MY MIND.

LET'S SEE. I SEE YOU'RE.

YEAH, YOU KNOW, AND I'M HAVING TROUBLE FORMULATING THE QUESTION.

BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR SUPERINTENDENT CHAPMAN IS IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S YOU KNOW, THIS DECISION IS WEIGHTED HEAVILY ON NOT CONTINUING OUR MEMBERSHIP, BUT WHAT WOULD TRULY BE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE WOULD LOSE IN YOUR MIND? AND HAVE WE REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF NOT BEING CONNECTED SOMEHOW WITH OTHER DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE? YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE JUST THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING TO MY MIND.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEES AND TRUSTEE CARLIN IS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION, AND THIS IS YOUR ORGANIZATION AS A BOARD AND THEY'RE

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YOUR SCHOOL BOARD ORGANIZATION AND THEY OFFER A LOT OF SERVICES.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THOSE SERVICES, BUT THEY ARE THERE.

I THINK A DRAWBACK WOULD BE BEING A SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE ONLY SCHOOL DISTRICT POTENTIALLY THAT IS NOT A MEMBER.

I THINK THAT MAYBE COULD BE AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE FOR THAT.

AND YEAH, I DON'T LIKE NECESSARILY NOT BEING A PART OF THE SERVICES AND THE, THE GROUP IN WYOMING.

I THINK IT GOES TO SOMEWHAT DIVIDES THE SCHOOLS AND I LIKE HAVING A SEAT AT THE TABLE EVEN IF THE TABLE SOMETIMES DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THERE IS A SEAT.

I KNOW THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, BRIAN FARMER, HAS ENGAGED US IN LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS.

I BELIEVE HE IS WORKING HARD AT ENSURING THAT OUR CONCERNS THAT I HAVE SHARED WITH HIM IN THE PAST ARE BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND I KNOW THEY'RE REALLY STRONG.

ADVOCATES FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN THE WYOMING SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION AND THE MEMBER DISTRICTS.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST DRAWBACK OF NOT BEING A MEMBER.

ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU COULD ALSO DECIDE TO SIT OUT A YEAR AND SEE WHAT THE DRAWBACKS ARE AND POTENTIALLY REJOIN.

POTENTIALLY WE COULD REJOIN IF THE DECISION IS TO SEE HOW THINGS GO FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND THEN REJOIN AT A LATER DATE.

MAYBE THAT'S AN OPTION AS WELL.

I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE ABOUT THAT.

BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST COMPONENT IS IF WE'RE NOT A MEMBER, THEN OUR VOICE OR OUR CONCERNS WOULD HAVE TO BE SHARED IN AN ALTERNATIVE MANNER.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN, I GUESS, WOULD BE THAT I THINK TETON COUNTY SOMETIMES CONSIDERED AN OUTLIER AS IT IS.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE YOU KNOW, THE ONE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT IF WE PULL OUT, THEN WE AREN'T THERE.

WE AREN'T, YOU KNOW, CONNECTING.

AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MY SOUTH COMING OUT ME BUT CONNECTING WITH THE OTHER DISTRICTS.

AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE PERCEIVED IN A WAY THAT WE MAYBE AREN'T THINKING IT WOULD BE PERCEIVED.

UH, MR. CHAIR? YEAH.

SO, DR.

CHAPMAN, YOU SAID THAT WE POSSIBLY WOULD BE THE ONLY SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT'S NOT A MEMBER.

IF WE DECIDE NOT TO DO IT.

IS THAT RIGHT? UM.

CHAIRMAN AND TRUSTEE ZUNG.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE DECIDED TO DO.

THERE WAS A DUE DATE OF JUNE 30TH TO DETERMINE MEMBERSHIP.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE HAVE MADE ANY DECISIONS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

I ASSUME BEING MOST OF THEM PROBABLY HAVE CONTINUED THEIR MEMBERSHIP.

NOW, MR. CHAIR, I GUESS I KIND OF SHARED BETSEY'S CONCERN AS WELL.

AS KATE SAID, IT'S NOT REALLY ABOUT THE MONEY.

I WOULDN'T THINK THAT IT'S.

MORE POLITICAL ON OUR END AS WELL.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS LEGISLATIVE SERVICES IS ONE THING THEY OFFER AND WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING MONEY OUT OF THE STATE.

IF THIS WILL KIND OF FURTHER CREATE A DIVIDE BETWEEN US OTHER DISTRICTS AND AND THE STATE LEGISLATURE, I DON'T KNOW IF WSBA HAS BEEN HELPFUL AT ALL IN OUR CAUSE.

OR MAYBE NOT. MAYBE THAT'S WHY TALKING ABOUT THIS, I DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT WILL BE ANOTHER UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE.

UM. CHAIRMAN SCARLETT TRUSTEE ZUNG.

AS A STATEWIDE ORGANIZATION, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO EFFECTIVELY ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE STATE AND INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT PUTS DISTRICTS, IT PUTS THE SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION IN BETWEEN OTHER DISTRICTS.

I MEAN, WHAT'S GOOD FOR TETON COUNTY MAY NOT BE GOOD FOR ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND SO THEY THE THEIR LEGISLATIVE POSITIONS TEND TO BE SOMETHING THAT ALL OF THE MEMBER DISTRICTS CAN

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SUPPORT AND ALIGN TO WITHOUT PUTTING ANY DISTRICT ON THE OUTS.

I DO BELIEVE IN TRUST THAT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BRIAN FARMER IS ADVOCATING ON THE SIDELINES FOR TETON COUNTY.

I BELIEVE HE IS AWARE OF THE THE UNIQUE ISSUES IN TETON COUNTY, ALTHOUGH SOMETIMES MAYBE THAT ADVOCACY ISN'T PUBLIC FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE POLITICAL.

BUT I DO BELIEVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

I TRUST THOSE CONVERSATIONS, EVEN THOUGH I MAYBE HAVEN'T WITNESSED THEM PERSONALLY.

I HAVE TO TRUST THAT MR. FARMER IS DOING THAT WORK ON OUR BEHALF, EVEN IF IT MAY NOT BE PUBLIC.

THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DR.

CHAPMAN? WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD RENEW OUR NSBA MEMBERSHIP.

PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYBODY ONLINE? PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY.

WE'LL BRING IT BACK FOR TO THE BOARD.

WHAT'S OUR. TAKE A MOTION AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO END THE SESSION.

MR. CHAIR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE WYOMING SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION MEMBERSHIP RENEWAL AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE WYOMING SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION MEMBERSHIP RENEWAL AS PRESENTED.

LET'S DISCUSS IT.

BUT. MR. GINGRICH WE'LL JUST GO DOWN THE LINE.

UM. I'LL VOTE NO.

I NO USE OF WYOMING SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION.

THERE'S ONE MEETING EVERY FALL.

THEY COME HERE.

I GET LECTURED ON STUFF THAT I DON'T FIND VERY USEFUL.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'VE EVER SEEN THEM DO.

I HAVE FOUND THEM TO BE UNHELPFUL AND NOT WORTH THE MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENT.

WE ARE MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE AS A BOARD OURSELVES GOING DOWN TO CHEYENNE, AND I WOULD HOPE WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

I DON'T THINK OUR MEMBERSHIP IN THIS IN THE STATE BOARD, STATE, WYOMING SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION.

HELPS OR HURTS US EITHER WAY WITH OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH CHEYENNE.

BUT I JUST KNOW I FIND NO BENEFIT TO BELONGING.

THE ONLY THING I WAS THINKING MIGHT BE HELPFUL WAS THE INFORMATION THAT SARAH VAN GUERIN GETS THE ATTORNEY.

DEAL, BUT I THINK WE CAN FIGURE ALL THAT OUT ON OUR OWN.

SO THAT'S WHERE I AM.

I JUST FIND NO USE IN.

MR. ABRAMS. I FIND THAT A STATE ASSOCIATION CAN.

BRING VALUE AND THEN MAYBE NOT BRING VALUE, BUT TO STAND WITH THE OTHER SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION.

THE OTHER SCHOOL BOARDS I THINK IS IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT BETSY WAS SAYING.

I MY CONCERN WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT LEGISLATIVE UPDATES.

I WOULD HAVE A CONCERN THAT WITH.

AS STRESSED OR AS MUCH WORK AS OUR STAFF HAS.

TO RELY ON OUR STAFF OR OUR LEGAL TEAM.

I WOULD THINK THAT WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT A MUCH LARGER BILL THAN THE $21,000 THAT WE SPEND.

ALSO, IT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOARD, THAT ASSOCIATION, TO HEAR FROM US THAT WE HAVE CONCERNS WITH WHAT VALUE THAT THEY BRING TO US, AND THIS MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO LOOK AT HOW THEY OPERATE AND BRING MORE VALUE TO US AS A SCHOOL BOARD.

THAT I THINK STILL PARTICIPATE IN.

MR. CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS.

I'M WITH STEFAN.

I'M REALLY ANNOYED THAT THEY VOTED TO GET OUT OF THE WNBA.

BUT I THINK THAT JUST IS ANOTHER REASON WHY WHY TETON COUNTY NEEDS TO PARTICIPATE.

YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME YOU GO TO THEIR CONVENTION IN NOVEMBER, THE CRAZIEST THINGS COME UP FROM VARIOUS SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

UNUSUALLY RATIONAL VOICES.

GET THEM OUT. BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE VERY FAR OUT FROM, YOU KNOW, BOOK

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BANNING, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND GIVEN WHAT THEY JUST DID WITH THE SBA.

WHICH I THINK IS RIDICULOUS, I THINK OUR VOICES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND A LONG TIME AGO, I REALIZED THAT IF YOU DON'T SHOW UP AND YOU'RE NOT THERE, YOUR VOICE WON'T BE HEARD.

AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE A UNIQUE AND IMPORTANT VOICE STATEWIDE THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO.

SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS ORGANIZATION.

THIS IS ON. YES.

I ALSO AGREE THAT.

THERE'S BENEFIT TO BEING A PART OF THE PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATION.

I'M A MEMBER OF THE ASSOCIATION OF PROFESSIONAL CIVIL ENGINEERS, AND SOMETIMES EVERY TIME I SEND THEM THAT CHECK, I'M LIKE, I'M REALLY GETTING SOMETHING OUT OF THIS.

BUT IT'S KIND OF PART OF JUST SUPPORTING THE PROFESSION AS A WHOLE.

AND YOU'RE LIKE, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS AS WELL.

AND SO I DO ALSO SEE SOME BENEFIT IN HAVING SOMEONE SEND US AN EMAIL ABOUT LEGISLATIVE UPDATES AND EVERYTHING.

AND I AGREE WITH STEFAN, WE MIGHT END UP SPENDING MORE MONEY WITH STAFF AND ALSO JUST, YOU KNOW.

A LITTLE CONCERN. YOU KNOW, IF BRIAN IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LOBBYING, NOT LOBBYING, BUT, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING KINDLY ON OUR BEHALF, HOPEFULLY AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR FUNDING, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT STOP.

AND SO THAT DOESN'T HELP OUR CAUSE AT ALL EITHER.

AS FAR AS GETTING FUNDING FOR OUR FACILITIES.

SO I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I'M LEANING AS WELL.

AND MAYBE BECAUSE I'M NOT AS OF A POLITICAL THING, SO I FEEL LIKE THAT'S KIND OF.

YOU KNOW. NOT AS BIG A CONSIDERATION FOR ME.

TRUSTEE DORNAN. I'M SITTING ON THE FENCE A BIT, BUT I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT.

WHAT WE'VE GAINED FROM OUR MEMBERSHIP TO SAY IT'S INSUFFICIENT.

BUT I HOPE.

AND SO I GUESS I WOULD CHOOSE TO STAY IN THE ASSOCIATION, BUT I SHOULD HOPE WE REVIEW THE POSSIBILITY OF PULLING OUT NEXT YEAR IF THINGS ARE MORE STRAINED THAN THEY ARE NOW.

AND HAD ONE MORE THING, MR. CHAIR. YES. I WOULD REMIND THE ENTIRE BOARD THAT THE SEARCH FOR SUPERINTENDENT, THEY HELPED US VERY MUCH AND WE ENDED UP WITH OUR CURRENT SUPERINTENDENT.

SO I HAVE TO SAY THAT ALONE, GREAT SERVICE, BUT THIS BOARD I'VE BEEN GUARANTEED IS GOING TO HAVE TO USE THAT SERVICE AND THAT IS THE TRUTH.

TRUSTEE CARLIN YOU WANT TO SHARE ANYTHING THIS DISCUSSION? UM, I REALLY I THINK SO MUCH OF IT HAS BEEN SAID.

REALLY? MY, UM.

I JUST THINK THAT IT REALLY IS NOT A HUGE FINANCIAL COST IN THE BIG PICTURE.

AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONLY KID NOT IN THE SANDBOX, EVEN IF WE'RE NOT GETTING A WHOLE LOT OF BENEFIT OUT OF IT.

I JUST I FEEL LIKE THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THAT.

YOU KNOW THAT JUST EVEN CHATTER AT THE CONFERENCE COULD, YOU KNOW, BE DETRIMENTAL.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK I WOULD VOTE TO STAY IN IT.

UM, RECOGNIZING THAT IT IS NOT REALLY ALL IT'S CRACKED UP TO BE.

UM. I AM GOING TO JOIN KEITH AND I'LL VOTE NO.

AND THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS.

WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY AROSE AND OUR NAME WAS MENTIONED BY THIS ASSOCIATION, USUALLY THE FACTS WERE MISSTATED.

IT MIGHT BE REALLY TOO BIG OF A POSITION FOR MR. FARMER TO BE RUNNING AS OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

I'LL BE FLAT OUT HONEST.

I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT COSMO.

I DO FIND GREAT VALUE IN NSBA.

I THINK THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT ADVOCATE AND WHEN THEY SCREWED UP, THEY ADDRESSED THEIR ISSUES IMMEDIATELY INTERNALLY.

AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS AS POLITICAL AS SOME.

I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE A LEADERSHIP DESCRIBING PARENTS THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR CHILDREN'S EDUCATIONS, TERRORISTS IN A FORMAL LETTER,

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I THINK THAT'S JUST STUPID.

SOMEONE BEING CUTE.

IN BUFFALO.

I DIDN'T SEE.

AND DR. CHAPMAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG OR I DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY FROM WSBA IN BUFFALO, JUNE 6TH.

THEY WEREN'T THERE ON OUR BEHALF.

MAYBE IN GILLETTE.

I HEARD THEY HAD A REPRESENTATIVE THERE BUT DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.

WE HAVE THREE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE STATE.

THAT CONTINUALLY SHOW A TREMENDOUS NEED FOR FACILITIES IMPROVEMENT.

TETON COUNTY, WYOMING COUNTY ONE.

CHEYENNE. AND CAMPBELL COUNTY.

GILLETTE HIGH SCHOOL.

US THREE. WE'RE NOT COMPETING.

WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO THE BEST FOR OUR STUDENTS.

AND WSBA HAS BEEN SILENT.

I AM NOT A BIG FAN AND I LOOK AT THE COST BENEFIT.

UM, THERE'S VERY, VERY LITTLE THAT I SEE WE GET.

IF WE NEED LESSONS ON HOW LEGISLATURE WORKS, I'M SURE THAT WE COULD BUY KEITH A PIZZA AND HE WOULD PROVIDE US BETTER EDUCATION THAN ANYBODY IN THE STATE COULD.

SO WITH THAT, I AM A NO VOTE AT THIS POINT.

SO. THE SULTAN HAD ANOTHER COMMENT.

THE COMMENT WAS MADE.

THAT WAS A GOOD COMMENT. BUT YOU WANT TO STAY IN THE SANDBOX AND THAT MAKES SENSE.

MY FRUSTRATION IS THE WYOMING STATE, THE WYOMING SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION LEFT THE SANDBOX.

THEY'RE NOT STAYING IN.

SO WE HAVE A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION.

YEAH, I THINK WE ARE ALL FRUSTRATED WITH THE NSP.

LUCKILY, THEY BROUGHT IN AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THAT WE ALL KNOW.

THAT'S RIGHT AT THE SHOW.

AND I THINK NFPA IS DOING A GOOD JOB NOW.

SO SBA HAS LEFT THE SANDBOX.

THEY'RE NOT PARTICIPATING ANYMORE WITH THE NATIONAL DISCUSSION OF EDUCATION.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DEAL WITH WITH THAT ANYMORE.

THEY'RE ISOLATING THEMSELVES.

SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M ISOLATING MYSELF.

I FEEL LIKE THE NSBA ALREADY DID THAT FOR ME.

THEY ISOLATED THEMSELVES FROM THE NATIONAL EDUCATION DISCUSSION AND AND LEFT US SORT OF HIGH AND DRY HERE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US SEPARATE.

AND THEN US CONNECT THROUGH NATIONAL CONNECTIONS WITH CONNECT US BACK UP WITH SBA.

I FIND THAT MUCH MORE HELPFUL TO THIS DISTRICT THAN BELONGING TO SBA, WHERE I GET A LECTURE OF THREE HOURS EVERY FALL, YOU KNOW, AND I GET A BUNCH OF HANDOUTS.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN COPY SOME HANDOUTS FOR ME AND MAIL THEM TO ME.

I DON'T NEED TO DO THAT EVERY FALL.

I JUST FIND THAT DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M LEAVING THE SANDBOX.

I FEEL LIKE THEY LEFT IT FOR ME ALREADY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE SECONDS? SO. JESSE ZUNG SO I GUESS SO.

CLARIFYING QUESTIONS NOW.

SO IF WE WEREN'T PART OF NSBA, THEN SO WE ARE PROUD OF NSBA THEN WE CANNOT CONNECT THROUGH NATIONAL CONNECTIONS.

IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT.

WHY IS THAT? OR YOU HAVE TO DO WHATEVER NSBA IS DOING OR BOUND TO THEM.

SO THEY'VE GONE WITH THIS OTHER ORGANIZATION THAT NONE OF US KNOW.

IT'S ONLY BEEN AROUND FOR TWO YEARS.

WE CAN'T WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CONNECT NOW WITH WSBA.

WE'RE FORBIDDEN.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU LEAVE NSBA AND YOU CONNECT BACK UP WITH NSBA THROUGH NATIONAL CONNECTIONS.

MR. CHAIR, COULD WE GET.

SUPERINTENDENT CHAPMAN TO DESCRIBE NATIONAL CONNECTIONS AGAIN.

NOW THAT WE'RE FURTHER INTO THE CONVERSATION SO THAT I CAN HEAR THAT AGAIN.

YES.

NATIONAL CONNECTIONS HAS ADVOCACY ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

THEY PROVIDE TRAINING TO SCHOOL BOARDS, THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO ADVOCATE APPROPRIATELY.

THEY KEEP YOU UP TO DATE AND ABREAST OF NATIONAL CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE MOMENT AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACT ON STATES.

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WE GET REGULAR COMMUNICATION FROM NATIONAL CONNECTIONS ABOUT CASES THAT MAY BE HAPPENING.

THINGS TO BE LOOKING OUT FOR THROUGH THE SCHOOL ATTORNEY COUNCIL.

THEY'RE ALSO CONNECTED WITH MSBA AND SARAH USES THAT SERVICE QUITE A BIT.

WHENEVER SOMETHING POPS UP FOR US, SARAH WILL ASK A QUESTION AND GET INPUT FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AS ATTORNEYS ON THAT.

SO THAT'S CERTAINLY A BENEFICIAL COMPONENT OF NATIONAL CONNECTIONS.

IT ALSO PROVIDES FREE WEBINARS AND SERVICES ON VARIOUS TOPICS.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE'LL BE PARTICIPATING ON A TOPIC COMING UP SCHOOL SAFETY.

THEY'VE DONE THE FOOD NUTRITION PROGRAM.

SO A LOT OF TIMES THINGS ARE HAPPENING ON A FEDERAL LEVEL THAT IMPACT US AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW ABOUT IT, OR THERE'S GRANTS OR OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HEAR ABOUT THROUGH THE NATIONAL CONNECTIONS.

THE OTHER COMPONENT THAT IS OF VALUE I PRESENT AT NSBA ATTENDANCE AT NSBA IS AT A THEIR CONFERENCE IS AT A DISCOUNTED PRICE AND THEN YOU'RE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IF YOU'RE A MEMBER AND NATIONAL CONNECTIONS.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WELL.

I WILL. I'VE BEEN TO ONE CONVENTION.

AND THEY ARE GOOD FUN AND THEY'RE REALLY INFORMATIVE.

MR. CHAIR, YOU.

SORRY. GO AHEAD.

NO, SORRY, I WAS INTERRUPTING.

I MEAN, GUESS REALLY, MY THING IS, IS THAT I JUST.

YOU KNOW, I JUST WORRY.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A REAL ATTACHMENT TO WSBA BY ANY MEANS.

I JUST DON'T.

YOU KNOW, I JUST WORRY ABOUT.

HOW IT LOOKS OR.

NOT BEING ABLE TO.

MAKE CONNECTIONS WITH SOME OF THOSE OTHER SCHOOL BOARDS ACROSS THE STATE.

YOU KNOW THAT'S JUST WHERE MY HEAD IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST I FEEL LIKE WE GET.

UM. THAT WE ALREADY ARE SO ISOLATED THAT IT JUST, YOU KNOW, UM.

YEAH. SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE MY WORRY IS.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE NATIONAL CONNECTION SOUNDS LIKE A MUCH BETTER VALUE.

SO ANYWAY.

THE FIRST.

I'D LIKE TO CHANGE MY MOTION.

WELL, OKAY.

I AGREE WITH BETSY.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR SUPERINTENDENT CHAPMAN WITH WHAT TRUSTEE CARLIN IS SAYING.

IS THERE ANOTHER WAY FOR US TO CONNECT WITH THE WYOMING SCHOOL BOARDS OTHER THAN THIS ASSOCIATION? SO IF WE FEEL THAT WE WANT TO STILL STAY CONNECTED, IS THERE ANOTHER VEHICLE FOR US TO DO THAT? I'M GOING TO TAKE A STAB AT THIS.

WE'VE ALL BUILT RELATIONSHIPS AND YOU'RE NEW ON THE BOARD, BUT WE'VE ALL BUILT RELATIONSHIPS OVER THE YEARS WITH SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AT OTHER.

IN OTHER DISTRICTS, SUCH AS THE CHAIRMAN OF STAR VALLEY LINCOLN, TOO.

HE AND I HAVE A GOOD WORKING CONNECTION AND WE'RE GOING TO STAY CONNECTED.

AND I DON'T THINK WNSB IS NECESSARILY THE GLUE THAT BINDS US BECAUSE WE'VE ALL DEVELOPED THESE RELATIONSHIPS OVER THE YEARS.

ALL RIGHT. AND AS WE PROCEED.

LARAMIE COUNTY ONE, WHICH IS CHEYENNE AND CAMPBELL COUNTY.

WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THEM BY NECESSITY, TRYING TO GET THE FUNDING FOR BUILDING PROJECTS AND THIS TYPE OF THING.

SO I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF COMMUNICATION.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A FORMER BOARD MEMBER WHO IS STILL VERY CONNECTED THAT WE CAN ALWAYS REVISIT THAT AT SOME POINT WITH JANINE.

YOU. WE USED TO ALSO SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND CONNECTING WITH THE TETON VALLEY 401 SCHOOL BOARD, AND OVER THE YEARS WITH COVID AND SUCH, WE DIDN'T CONTINUE WITH THAT CONNECTION.

AND I THINK THAT'S ALSO VERY VALUABLE BECAUSE THE OUR TWO COMMUNITIES ARE SO CONNECTED.

AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO BE A VALUABLE OPPORTUNITY.

AND THERE ARE A LOT OF INFORMAL WAYS THAT WE CAN STAY CONNECTED.

AND CHAIRMAN SCARLETT OUTLINED THOSE.

I DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT AS MUCH.

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UM, I DO THINK THAT SOMETIMES FEEDBACK THAT IS GIVEN AND THEN I THINK ABOUT I USED TO GROUND MY THREATENED TO GROUND MY KIDS AND I WOULD SAY, IF YOU KEEP DOING THIS, I'M GOING TO GROUND YOU.

WELL, THEY WOULD KEEP DOING IT UNTIL I GROUNDED THEM.

AND SO, SURE, SOMETIMES I THINK THAT IS A TOOL WHERE I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE PROFESSIONALLY SHARED FEEDBACK.

AND I BELIEVE MR. FARMER HAS HEARD THAT FEEDBACK AND THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MAYBE FEEL DIFFERENTLY AND HE'S GUIDED BY THOSE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, SO MAYBE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.

AND PERHAPS IF THE BOARD DECIDES THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE MEMBERSHIP WITH WSBA, THAT MIGHT FORCE SOME CHANGE AND FORCE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO HEAR THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE SHARED WITH MR. FARMER SO THAT THE WYOMING SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION MAY GROW A LITTLE BIT MORE AND RECOGNIZE THAT THE CURRENT PLATFORM WASN'T NECESSARILY SERVING ALL THE MEMBER DISTRICTS IN THE WAY THAT THEY HAD HOPED AND INTENDED.

MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A QUESTION FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT.

WHAT WAS THE VOTE LIKE? DO YOU KNOW THE VOTE COUNT? I THOUGHT THEY WERE VOTING.

I THOUGHT THEY HAD AGREED TO KEEP MEMBERSHIP WITH BOTH ORGANIZATIONS.

I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT THEIR COMPROMISE WAS GOING TO BE, THAT THEY WERE GOING TO JUST BELONG TO BOTH.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY HAD DROPPED LAST NIGHT.

WHERE DID THAT COMPROMISE? DID IT JUST GO AWAY OR.

APPARENTLY THEY ENDED UP TAKING TWO VOTES, ONE TO STAY WITH AND 1 OR 1 FOR NSBA AND ONE FOR COSMO INSTEAD OF.

ALL OR NONE. SO THEY ENDED UP VOTING ON NSBA AND COSMO AND I BELIEVE IT WAS 5 TO 12 WITH TWO ABSENT, MAYBE SO 512 TO.

OUR. REPRESENTATIVE DID VOTE TO SAY.

THE HORNSBY COMEDY.

AND JUST I DON'T WANT TO LEAD US ASTRAY.

SO. I PERSONALLY JUST GET VERY FRUSTRATED WITH WSBA.

SO VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE.

I DON'T WANT TO LEAD US ASTRAY.

I'M ANNOYED WITH THEM OVER NOT JUST THE SBA THING, BUT A MYRIAD OF THINGS.

SO I JUST I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

I GUESS IT'S MY PROBLEM.

I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WE CAN REVISIT THIS MEMBERSHIP AT ANY TIME.

AND THEY WOULD WELCOME US BACK WITH A CHECK.

YEAH. TRUSTEES.

I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHILE IF THE SCHOOL BOARD, IF THE SCHOOL BOARD DECIDES TO DISCONTINUE MEMBERSHIP IN WSBA.

THE WE ARE CONNECTED TO VARIETY OF OTHER ASSOCIATIONS ACROSS THE STATE.

SO THE TETON COUNTY VOICE IS STILL DEFINITELY A PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

I'M STILL A MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT ASSOCIATION.

KRISTEN IS AN EXECUTIVE MEMBER OF THE WYOMING ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL BOARD OR SCHOOL BUSINESS OFFICIALS.

SO AND WE ARE MEMBERS AND THE CURRICULUM.

THE CURRICULUM DIRECTOR, DR.

CRISP, IS A MEMBER OF THE STATE SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION.

THE STATE SCHOOL BOARD.

YEAH. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF CONNECTIONS.

AND PIERRE TRUDEAU IS ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF SUPERINTENDENT MEGAN DEGENFELDER STRATEGIC PLAN COMMITTEES.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF CONNECTIONS IN THE STATE, EVEN IF THAT'S THE CHOICE THAT YOU MAY.

AND ANYBODY ELSE. UM, TRUST.

UH, MR. CHAIR, I WOULD JUST THANK, UM, DR.

CHAPMAN FOR THOSE EXAMPLES, BECAUSE THAT IS A, YOU KNOW, GIVES A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT VIEW.

YEAH. UM, SO.

I THINK WE'VE HAD AND GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

YOU SAY THE MOTION AGAIN, PLEASE.

I'M TRYING TO FIND THE MOTION.

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SO THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE.

THE WYOMING SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION MEMBERSHIP RENEWAL AS PRESENTED.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

OKAY. THERE'S ALWAYS A PAUSE WITH THE ZOOM.

SO I HAVE TWO AYES.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? AYE. SO IT WAS TWO FOR FIVE AGAINST.

THANKS, BETSY. OKAY.

UH, IT'S 5 TO 8.

WE CAN TAKE.

A FEW MINUTES, WE CRANK THROUGH MR. BARNEY'S REAL QUICK. YOU'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT.

COME ON. CONSIDERATION OF WYOMING.

CONSIDERATION OF WYOMING.

GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT.

WORKFORCE HOUSING.

SEWER CONNECTION PERMIT.

MR. CHAIR TRUSTEES, I WILL QUICKLY INTRODUCE THIS.

AND THEN, AS YOU'VE NOTICED, BRIAN BARNEY, WHO'S REPRESENTING WYOMING GAME AND FISH, IS HERE TO FIELD YOUR QUESTIONS.

SO WE HAVE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION A PERMIT APPLICATION FOR THE MONGER SEWER SYSTEM.

A WYOMING GAME AND FISH IS BUILDING SOME WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THEY'D LIKE TO ATTACH THOSE TO OUR SEWER SYSTEM.

IN SUMMARY, IT'S A MULTIFACETED APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THEM TO HOOK UP TO THE SEWER SYSTEM.

AND SO WE ARE BRINGING THIS FORWARD, ASKING FOR YOU TO TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND APPROVE THIS WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT OUR SEWER OPERATOR, MATT AUSTIN, HAS LISTED AND I INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, I'M BRINGING THIS FORWARD THIS WAY BECAUSE HE WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT.

BUT THIS IS THE FIRST STEP OF MANY STEPS FOR THAT GAME.

THE GAME AND FISH WILL NEED APPROVAL FOR.

SO I'VE JUMBLED THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THIS WITH THESE CONSIDERATIONS OR THESE CONDITIONS SO THAT THEY CAN GET MOVED, MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR APPLICATION.

RIGHT WITH THAT, I STAND FOR QUESTIONS AS WELL AS MR. BARNEY. UM.

QUESTIONS FOR.

NO. THE DIRECTOR ARMY.

YES. TRUSTEE.

DORNAN. SOMETIMES I FEEL TOTALLY OUT OF.

JUST CLUELESS.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE OCCASIONS.

WHAT? WHY ARE WE IN THE SEWER BUSINESS? PRIORITY NUMBER ONE.

SEWER NUMBER TWO IS EDUCATION FLOWING? AND WE ACTUALLY WORK AGAINST GRAVITY, WORKING HARD TO GET RID OF THIS SEWER LINE.

WE WON'T EVER HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

BUT YOU KEEP SAYING THAT.

WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT SINCE I WAS ELECTED THE FIRST TIME.

SURE. IT'S COME UP.

THAT'S THE FIRST MEETING WE'RE HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE SEWERS.

OH, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

WAS A. WHERE ARE WE IN THE MULTIFACETED APPROVAL MODEL? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. YEAH, LET ME.

BECAUSE I DIDN'T GO OVER THAT WELL.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP, IS TO BRING IT BEFORE THE BOARD TO ACCEPT THEIR APPLICATION AND ARE OPEN TO THEM CONNECTING TO THE SEWER SYSTEM.

THEN THEY WILL GO TO THE TOWN OF JACKSON AND THEY HAVE TO GET A SEPARATE APPROVAL FROM THEM.

THEY WILL ALSO NEED A DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY PERMIT, APPROVAL AND SOME APPROVALS FOR UTILITIES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY FROM DOT.

SO LIKE I SAY, THERE ARE MULTIPLE APPROVALS NEEDED AND THE STRATEGY TO ENSURE THIS HAPPENS IN THE MOST TIMELY MANNER IS TO PARALLEL THOSE APPROVAL PROCESSES.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT WITH THESE CONDITIONS THAT THIS IS THE FIRST STEP.

WHAT IF THEY GET APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD? THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE OTHER APPROVALS.

SO WHEN WE MAKE THE MOTION, SHOULD YOU WOULD YOU LIKE US TO READ THE THREE CONDITIONS TO.

UM, MR. CHAIR. MR. GINGERY, I WOULD RECOMMEND.

YES. OTHERWISE, MAYBE SARAH CAN CLARIFY IF THAT'S REQUIRED TO.

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MAKE IT BINDING.

OH. UM.

THE FEE IS THE SAME FEE IS DOING FOR.

SAME HOOKUP FOR YOU. MR. CHAIR, THAT IS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

AND NO, THERE WAS NO ACCOMMODATION FOR THE FEE FOR THE HOOK UP FOR THIS ORGANIZATION.

THEY READ OUR FEE SCHEDULE AND DID NOT ASK TO NEGOTIATE THAT.

SO IT'S SO THAT'S NOT ON THE TABLE.

OKAY. I WILL NOTE THAT WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE THE MEETING IS THAT YOU TOOK ACTION ON THE RULES AND REGULATIONS REGARDING THE 2 TO 3 BEDROOM RATE.

THEIR APPLICATION DOES INCLUDE A SIGNATURE WITH THE EXISTING RATE SCHEDULE.

SO STAFF PROPOSES THAT WE WOULD ACCEPT THEIR APPLICATION AS IS.

BUT I WOULD NOW THAT THE RULES HAVE BEEN CHANGED, HAVE THEM SUBMIT AND SIGN A UPDATED RULES AND REGULATION FOR THE ACTION TONIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR HARDAKER SPARTAN? YES. QUESTION. SO I NOTICED THEY HAVE A THEY'RE PROPOSING A MASTER METER FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

AND I ASSUME THAT WE TALKED TO HIM BEFORE ABOUT READING METERS, AND HE SAID, I MEAN, DOES HE HAVE CAPACITY TO READ THE ONE METER? YEAH, WHO'S GOING TO READ THE METER? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

TRUSTEE ZUNG. THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION, TOO.

I WILL SAY THAT.

YES, THAT CONDITION THAT.

IF THE EXISTING NUMBER OF USERS WE HAVE THAT.

YES, ADDING ONE MORE METER READ, WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT.

AND WE BROUGHT THAT FORWARD WITH WYOMING GAME AND FISH.

AS FAR AS JUST HAVING ONE METER AND THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.

I GUESS TRUSTEE SERIOUSLY CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT.

DOES THE SCHOOL OWN THE PROPERTY THAT.

GAME AND FISH IS TRYING TO ACCESS OR SOMETHING.

WHY ARE WE EVEN DEALING WITH THIS? GAME AND FISH, MR. CHAIR AND TRUSTEE DORNAN.

SO NO GAME AND FISH IS DEVELOPING ON PROPERTY THAT THE STATE OWNS.

SO THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE THERE.

BUT AND I MIGHT DEFER TO MR. BARNEY TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT THAT.

I THINK THEY WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING AS FAR AS THEY FEEL ENVIRONMENTALLY THAT HOOKING UP TO A SEWER SYSTEM RATHER THAN PUTTING IN A TRADITIONAL LEACH FIELD FOR THESE HOUSING UNITS IS IN THE BEST INTEREST FOR THAT SITE.

AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY HAVE TO APPLY TO US TO BASICALLY CONVEY THEIR SEWER TO THE TOWN TO BE PROCESSED.

SO THAT'S AKA THE SEWER BUSINESS.

WE'RE IN THE SEWER LINE THAT RUNS FROM MELODY RANCH DOWN SOUTH TO MUNGER.

MOUNTAIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS AN ASSET OWNED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE PUT THAT IN TO BUILD OUR SCHOOL.

AND SO THAT SEWER AND THAT SEWER SO INCREDIBLE.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET AND THERE'S.

WHAT'S THE CAPACITY OF THE SEWER LINE? WELL, AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT'S A LOT.

IT'S HUNDREDS. YEAH, WE'RE USING LIKE 3%.

WE'RE USING 3% OF THE TOTAL CAPACITY OF THE SEWER LINE.

AND IT LITERALLY PUMPS IT FROM UNDERMOUNTAIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BACK UP THE HILL ACROSS TO MELODY RANCH, ACROSS THE SOUTH MELODY RANCH, AND THEN DOWN THE MAIN LINE INTO THE SEWER PONDS IN THE LOWER MELODY RANCH.

OH, YOU FORGOT. UNDER THE SNAKE RIVER.

OH, YEAH, THE SNAKE RIVER.

YEAH, THIS IS. IS THAT? YEAH, I SORT OF GET IT.

SO THE SCHOOL OF THE SEWER LINE AND WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE OTHER PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY.

TOTALLY HONEST.

IT'S A RELIEF BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS TO TAKE THEIR TURN.

SO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYTHING ELSE? AWESOME.

WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

JUST WONDERING, DO WE GET OH, YOU GOT TO COME UP HERE AND INNOVATION NAME.

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MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, I JUST WONDERED, DOES THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GET A REVENUE? MY NAME IS JIM KLAUS.

I'M A PARENT AND I CARE.

DO WE GET REVENUE FROM THAT SEWER LINE? DO WE KNOW? DO WE GET REVENUE? REVENUE.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE. DO WE CHARGE PEOPLE WHO USE IT? BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY USING IT.

BUT IF WE PUT THIS PROPOSAL IN, WE'LL MAKE MONEY.

YEAH, WELL, START REIMBURSING OURSELVES.

AND FROM THE DOT TWO, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN UNITS TWO AND.

YEAH. OH, RIGHT.

AND JUST A COMMENT.

NOTE, IT REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF FRESH WATER THAT WE HAVE TO FLUSH DOWN THE SEWER LINE AS WELL, BECAUSE THEN IT PUTS MORE VOLUME GOING THROUGH IT TO KEEP EVERYTHING FLOWING THE WAY A SEWER LUNCHEON. YOU ARE LEARNING.

I HAVEN'T BEEN FALLING ASLEEP.

ANYBODY ONLINE FOR MY COMMENTS? NO ONE. OKAY.

WE'LL BRING IT BACK. CAN I HAVE A MOTION? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT WORKFORCE HOUSING SEWER CONNECTION PERMIT AS PRESENTED WITH THE FOLLOWING THREE CONDITIONS THAT THE GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT RECEIVES.

WASTEWATER CONNECTION APPROVAL FROM JACKSON, WYOMING PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT UTILITY LICENSE APPROVAL OF THE SYSTEM DESIGN BY THE SEWER OPERATOR.

THE WYOMING GAME. AND FISH NUMBER TWO IS WYOMING GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT SIGNS A CONNECTION AND USE AGREEMENT WITH THE TSD DESIGNATING THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT BEFORE ALLOWING THE PHYSICAL CONNECTION.

AND LASTLY, NUMBER THREE.

GAME AND FISH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY REVIEW AND INSPECTION FEES EXCEEDING THE $200 APPLICATION FEE REIMBURSED BY GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT PER THE MUNGER MOUNTAIN SEWER.

RULES AND REGULATIONS.

SECOND. IT IS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE WYOMING GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT WORKFORCE HOUSING SEWER CONNECTION PERMIT AS PRESENTED WITH THE THREE CONDITIONS CONDITIONS.

UM. DISCUSSION.

I WOULD JUST POINT OUT, I KNOW WE MAKE A LOT OF JOKES AND STUFF, BUT I THINK WHEN YOU REALLY NEED TO COMMEND THE WYOMING GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT, THEY COULD HAVE DONE THEIR SUBDIVISION AND PUT IN A SEPTIC.

SO I THINK IT'S VERY ADMIRABLE TO THEM TO I ASSUME THIS IS COSTING A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY TO CONNECT TO THE SEWER.

I THINK THAT'S A VERY ADMIRABLE THING THAT THE GAME AND FISH DEPARTMENT IS DOING FOR THIS NEW SUBDIVISION FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.

I THINK IT'S. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? DOES THE UNANIMOUS VOTE. OKAY, WE SKIPPED THE WHAM ESTATE LOAN.

IS THAT NEXT? THAT'S NICE.

OKAY. YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK? YES, WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED UNTIL.

15 QUARTER AFTER EIGHT THAT TIME.

I BELIEVE THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER SIX, THE WYOMING STATE LOAN AND INVESTMENT BOARD LOAN RESOLUTION AND LOAN DOCUMENTS.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN REYNOLDS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

IS OUR NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING THE $60 MILLION LOAN FROM SLIB FOR THE EMPLOYEE HOUSING TO BE CONSTRUCTED OVER BY THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

THE SOURCE OF REPAYMENT OF THAT LOAN IS THE INITIATIVE FROM 2022.

AND JUST VERY QUICKLY ATTACHED FOR THE TO THIS ITEM ARE THE LOAN AGREEMENT THE A BASICALLY SECURITY SAYING HOW WE'RE GOING TO REPAY THE LOAN AND A RESOLUTION RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ACCEPTANCE OF THE $60 MILLION.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR REYNOLDS.

SO THANK YOU. PUBLIC COMMENT ON OUR LOAN FROM THE STATE LAND AND INVESTMENT BOARD.

TO HELP FUND OUR HOUSING PROJECT.

NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE STATE LOAN AND INVESTMENT BOARD, CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION LOAN AGREEMENT.

SECURITY AGREEMENT AND STATEMENT AND RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.

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SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE STATE LOAN AND INVESTMENT BOARD, CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION LOAN AGREEMENT.

SECURITY AGREEMENT AND FINANCING STATEMENT AND RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.

DISCUSSION. MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A REAL BIG THANK YOU TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HELPED HER.

THIS IS A HUGE LIFT.

IT'S A LOT TO ASK OF OUR STAFF TO TO DO THIS THROUGH SLIP.

SLIP REQUIRES A LOT TO GET THIS DONE.

AND IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO PULL THIS OFF, GET THE MONEY LOANED TO US.

AND EVERYBODY'S SEEN THE DOCUMENTS.

IT'S VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

I THINK THIS IS GOING TO WORK OUT REALLY NICELY TO GET THIS EMPLOYEE HOUSING DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO HELP OUR STAFF.

BUT AGAIN, BIG THANKS TO CHARLOTTE.

THIS IS A BIG, HEAVY LIFT.

WELL. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? JUST LIKE I PERSONALLY MIGHT SAY.

THANK YOU. THE DOCUMENTS ARE GREAT.

IT'S A LINE OF CREDIT, SO WE ONLY PAY THE INTEREST ON WHAT WE DRAW WHEN WE USE IT.

SO ALL THE PIECES ARE THERE EXCEPT FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE TOWN.

SO LET'S AS SOON AS WE GET THAT APPROVAL DONE.

OH YEAH. THE THING YOU NEED TO GET THAT DONE FIRST, GET THAT APPROVAL DONE AND THEN LET'S GET THIS THING BID OUT AND START BUILDING. RIGHT WITH THAT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? GOT UNANIMOUS.

UH, NEXT.

THESE ARE THE EXECUTIVE ACTION ITEMS. THE CONSIDERATION OF PERSONNEL REQUEST DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[INAUDIBLE].

MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL OUR AUGUST MEETING AND DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT TO COMMUNICATE WITH THIS EMPLOYEE, AS TRUSTEE MEAD HAD SUGGESTED.

THAT SORT OF GET TO IT, KATE? I THINK SO. TRUSTEE.

I THINK. RIGHT. SO IT'S BEEN TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED. OKAY.

CONSIDERATION OF THE RESOLUTION AGREEMENT IS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

TAKE A MOTION. I MOVED TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AGREEMENT THAT WE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AGREEMENT, AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

CONSIDERATION OF SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AS DISCUSSED IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ON A MOTION, PLEASE.

MR. CHAIR, I MOTION TO APPROVE THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. NEXT, THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WHICH 17 ITEMS?

[G. Consent Agenda]

ONE APPROVAL OF STAFF CONSIDERATIONS AND REPORTS JUNE 2023 TO APPROVAL OF EXECUTIVE MEETING MINUTES OF JUNE 14TH, 2023.

THREE APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF JUNE 14TH 2023.

REGULAR MEETING FOR APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 2023 CHECK REGISTER.

FIVE APPROVAL OF INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES EDUCATION ACT PART B LOCAL EDUCATIONAL AGENCY ASSURANCES.

SIX. APPROVAL OF SPEED ESY SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR THE 2324 SCHOOL YEAR.

SEVEN. APPROVAL [INAUDIBLE] PURCHASE ORDER.

EIGHT. APPROVAL OF SOLUTION TREE INC PURCHASE AGREEMENT.

NINE. APPROVAL OF DREAMBOX PURCHASE ORDER.

TEN. APPROVAL OF IMAGINED LEARNING PURCHASE ORDER.

11. APPROVAL OF WYOMING HIGH SCHOOL ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATION MEMBERSHIP APPLICATION.

12. APPROVAL OF RESIDENTIAL LEASE.

RENEWAL OF BLAIR PLACE APARTMENTS.

13. APPROVAL OF ACM.

WYOMING LLC.

PURCHASE ORDER FOR EXTERIOR REPAIRS AT CUBS DAYCARE.

14. APPROVAL OF FRONT LINE PURCHASES.

PURCHASE ORDER. 15.

APPROVAL OF SCHWABACHER MEADOWS GROUND LEASE CONTRACTS.

16. APPROVAL OF BOARD MEMBER TRAVEL.

17. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA.

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UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ALL THE ITEMS THAT YOU JUST STATED ON CONSENT AGENDA.

SECOND, THE MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH 17.

UM. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, WE'LL MOVE INTO COMMUNICATIONS, PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEMS THAT WE DID NOT ADDRESS

[H. Communication]

ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. THIS IS A CHANCE FOR THE PUBLIC TO STEP FORWARD, INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, LIMIT THEIR CONVERSATION TO THREE MINUTES.

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM PERSONNEL ISSUES AS WE ADDRESS THOSE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

YES, SIR. CHAIRMAN BOARD.

MY NAME IS JIM KLAUS, AND I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU HOW HAPPY I AM THAT I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MY DAUGHTER GO TO SCHOOL HERE.

YOU KNOW SHE'S GOING TO GRADUATE.

SHE CAME WHEN SHE WAS FIVE YEARS OLD.

SHE COULDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH AND SHE WAS NURTURED THROUGH THIS WHOLE SCHOOL THING.

SHE'S GOING TO BE A SENIOR THIS YEAR.

AND. I COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT MYSELF.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A TEAM.

AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER GRANDSON WHO HAS ADHD.

HE CAME INTO THE SYSTEM WHEN HE WAS THREE YEARS OLD.

HE WAS A MONSTER.

HE WAS TERRIBLE.

NO, IT WAS JUST NOT A JOKE.

HE COULD UNDERSTAND.

AND SO WHO NURTURED HIM? OUR SPECIAL ED DEPARTMENT.

HE'S NINE YEARS OLD NOW, AND HE'S A HUMAN BEING.

AND WHEN I USED TO GO TO THE MEETINGS WITH THE COUNSELORS, I LOOK AROUND THE TABLE AND THERE WAS A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS WORTH OF PEOPLE NOT JUST HELPING MY GRANDSON, BUT EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW.

SO THIS IS A SPECIAL PLACE.

AND YOU GUYS PROVED IT TONIGHT BY SAYING, I'M NOT GOING TO BE IN THAT ORGANIZATION.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE DO THINGS.

BUT THE REAL REASON I'M HERE IS BECAUSE I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY THAT NONE OF HERE HAD.

SEE, I WAS AT THE 20 TO 21 MEETING WHEN JUNE AND SOPHIE TOLD OUR COMMUNITY EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND I CRIED.

JUST THE THREE OF US AT THIS TABLE AND THESE LITTLE GIRLS, THEY'RE JUST KIDS.

I THOUGHT THEY WERE SNOWFLAKES.

AND WHEN SHE PUT HER HAND UP AND SHE SAID, I'M JUST WONDERING WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES IN OUR SCHOOL, LIKE KIDS SLICING THAT WORD FREAKED EVERYBODY OUT, FREAKED ME OUT.

AND SO SOPHIE'S GONE.

WE HAVE TO NURTURE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.

WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.

I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS. YOU DON'T EITHER.

THEY DON'T. BUT WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THEM A LITTLE MORE.

THIS IS A DIFFERENT TIME.

ANOTHER WORLD.

AND SO WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE YOUNG PEOPLE.

LET THEM TELL US THINGS.

GET THEM INVOLVED IN THIS, BECAUSE I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE.

I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS FOR A YEAR.

I MEAN, YOU GOT ALL THESE KIDS IN TOWN NOW THE BIG CAMPAIGN WILL BE VAPING.

NURSE BETH.

I MEAN, THERE ARE KIDS THAT ARE LEADERS.

WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE THEM BIGGER LEADERS.

WE HAVE TO NURTURE THEM AND WE HAVE TO.

I'M JUST SO HAPPY THAT, LIKE, THIS IS THE HAPPIEST PLACE I'VE BEEN.

I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE LAUGHING AND THE WORLD'S GOING TO SHIT AND YOU'RE LAUGHING.

THANK YOU. THANK.

IT'S WELL, SEVEN YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD THAT LIFTING PUBLIC COMMENTS HAD ANYBODY ONLINE.

NO. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE ROOM? OH, OKAY.

WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.

COMMUNICATIONS TO THE BOARD.

WE'VE GOT A FEW LETTERS AND THEN THERE'LL BE A FEW MORE THAT WILL BE ADDED NEXT MONTH WITH COMMUNICATIONS FROM WSBA DISCUSSING THE.

VOTES THAT THEY TOOK OVER THE WEEKEND.

SO THAT WE GOT THAT LETTER ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL ROAD.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL TAKE THE TIME TO READ THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT. WHAT WE COULD DO TO.

I'M KIND OF IN AGREEMENT WITH HER WITH THE SENTIMENT, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT IT.

I DO KNOW GREGORY LANE NOW HAS SOME SORT OF VEHICLE COUNTING DEVICE THAT'S BEEN ADDED IN THE LAST 24 HOURS.

SO THERE'S PROCESS PROGRESS, SO TO SPEAK.

I WILL SAY THAT TOWN AND COUNTY ARE LOOKING AT A NORTH SOUTH TRANSPORTATION PLANNING STUDY THAT WILL INCLUDE HIGH SCHOOL ROAD IN THAT AREA.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES, TRANSPORTATION.

HOPEFULLY THEY DON'T TRY TO COPY THE HIGHWAY 22 380 TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

YOU KNOW, JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ON THE BOOKS.

YOU KNOW, WE. SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS THE EASEMENT.

FROM BEHIND THE HIGH SCHOOL UP TO THE HIGHWAY.

[02:20:07]

I THINK WHEN THEY START LOOKING AT ANSWERS TO HIGH SCHOOL ROAD, WE'RE GOING TO BE PART OF THAT SOLUTION POTENTIALLY.

WE HOLD THAT EASEMENT ACROSS THE LOCKHART PROPERTY.

DOES IT GO? DOES IT BUTT UP TO GIL OR DOES IT GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS? IT GOES FROM RIGHT BEHIND THE SOCCER FIELD ALL THE WAY UP TO.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT GOES ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTY.

I KNOW IT CONNECTS FROM OUR PROPERTY ALL THE WAY TO THE HIGHWAY.

TO THE HIGHWAY. SO DO WE REALLY HAVE INFLUENCE OVER.

IT'S THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, RIGHT? WHO'S RULING ON THAT ROAD.

THE TRIBAL CONNECTION.

TRIBAL TRAIL. THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONNECTION ALTOGETHER.

OH, OKAY. CONNECT.

NO, YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT.

I MEAN, ALL THESE ROADS SORT OF CONNECT INTO EACH OTHER, SO.

WELL, I'M THINKING OF THE CONSCIENCE LETTER.

RIGHT. YEAH.

DO WE HAVE ANY INFLUENCE? BELLA WAS. AND ALL OF THESE NEW ROADS SEEM TO CONVERGE RIGHT UP HIGH SCHOOL.

SO. TO PONDER GOING FORWARD.

COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE BOARD.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD JUST SAY AS LITTLE TO DO WITH REVIEW OF MEETINGS.

I JUST THINK WE'RE REALLY HITTING ON ALL CYLINDERS.

SCHOOL DISTRICTS JUST DOING REALLY WELL.

I KNOW WE HAVE SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON, BUT BOY, ALL THE TIME I'VE SERVED ON THIS JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M SO IMPRESSED WITH EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING WITH OUR SCHOOL BUILDINGS AND THINGS DEANA'S DOING OR BUDGETS JUST BEING DONE VERY WELL.

ALL THE STUFF THAT CHARLOTTE'S DOING, GETTING OUR EMPLOYEE HOUSING DONE, YOU KNOW, DOING SOME ROOFING RIGHT NOW AT JACKSON ELEMENTARY, BRINGING DR.

CRISP ON TO DO ALL THE EDUCATION AND MEGAN PHELPS, STEVEN FRANK.

I JUST THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE TOO CLICHE, BUT WE'RE REALLY PUTTING A LOT OF THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT SEATS ON THE BUS.

AND WE SEEM TO REALLY BE HITTING ON ALL CYLINDERS.

SO JUST THAT POSITIVE NOTE I THOUGHT WE'D END WITH I JUST THINK WE'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT WE NEED TO WORK ON, BUT I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED LATELY THAT WE SEEM TO REALLY BE GETTING OUR ACT TOGETHER AND DOING REALLY GOOD THINGS.

THE SPECIMEN OF MR. CHAIR. UM, MR. KLAUS MADE ME THINK OF SOMETHING THAT.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE TWO GALS WHO STOOD UP IN.

WAS THAT JONATHAN SCHECTER'S? YES. REALLY KIND OF CRIED OUT FOR HELP.

UM, MENTAL HEALTH CARE IN OUR SCHOOLS FOR EVERYBODY.

AND I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A FOCUS OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

OUR FUND FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION HAS THE GENE COLDSMITH FUND, WHICH PROVIDES FUNDING FOR KIDS TO SEE PSYCHIATRISTS AND HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS IN THE TOWN, NO QUESTIONS ASKED, JUST PAYS FOR THEM TO GET THERE.

AND I KNOW I'VE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT KIDS JUST ASK THAT THERE'S THAT THEY KNOW AND THE OTHER KIDS KNOW.

ALL THE KIDS KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN ACCESS.

BECAUSE, AS YOU SAID, I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON ARE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES WITH OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF.

JUST BECAUSE IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, A RUGGED FEW YEARS WITH COVID AND ALL THAT.

AND A LOT OF A LOT OF CHILDREN NEED SUPPORT BEYOND WHAT OUR STAFF CAN GIVE THEM.

SO SO I HOPE THAT IF ANY OF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO GIVE MONEY TO DURING OLD BILLS, THAT GOLDSMITH FUND, I THINK IS A IS A REALLY GOOD ASSET OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.

OR TO REDUCE YOUR POWERBALL WINNING TRUSTEE ZUNG.

MR. CHAIR, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK MR. KLAUS FOR SITTING THROUGH THIS ENTIRE MEETING AND THEN COMING UP AND GIVING SUCH GREAT POSITIVE FEEDBACK.

IT WAS VERY I WAS BRACING MYSELF LIKE, OH, GOD, THIS GUY'S GOT TO BE FIRED.

THIS GUY IS VERY TOUCHY.

I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE DOING WELL.

AND PART OF THAT I WAS THE LEFT.

[02:25:05]

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

LISTEN, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I'VE BEEN AROUND. I THOUGHT A LOT OF THINGS.

I NEVER SAW ANYTHING.

THAT ROOM WAS JUST WRONG.

BUT THAT BOMB, BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S SO COOL AND, WELL, I KNOW SOMEBODY.

AND THIS LITTLE THING, 17 YEAR OLD GIRL, SO POISED THERE, SO POISED.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.

THEY WERE SPEAKING FROM THEIR SOUL.

AND FOR ME TO THINK I WAS JUST A THRILL.

I WAS A FIREMAN.

SHUT UP. I'VE BEEN EVERYWHERE I GO, I'VE TOLD THE STORY A LITTLE MORE DEPTH BECAUSE I ONLY HAD THREE MINUTES.

BUT LIKE COOL.

AND THEY'RE SMART.

I TALKED TO MY GRANDMOTHER.

SHE TELLS ME I'M A JERK AND LIKE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.

I'M KIND OF GIVING YOU SOCIAL SECURITY.

AND WHAT AM I HERE? YOU'RE ONLY 17.

YOU GET WORD OF 20 YEARS.

TRUSTEE DORNAN. ARE YOU OKAY? WE SORRY.

LET ME THROUGH THE SEWER LINE BACK AT YOU.

IT'LL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH.

TO BETSY ARE, YOU KNOW. RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY.

MOVE TO ADJOURN. SECOND MOVE TO ADJOURN.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.